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Old 02-04-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Hello all! We're moving from Atlanta to NYC coming up pretty soon. We are an interracial family; I'm a white male and my wife is a Haitian female. We have 4 children, one in HS. Atlanta has been great with an extremely diverse metro area to include enough of a Haitian population to generate multiple stores/churches etc, and we have enjoyed being active in all.

My concern is this: The Northeast is diverse but segregated. We're looking for a place in the boroughs or nassau that is very diverse, middle class, good schools and good for families.

We were thinking of Bay Ridge, but that HS (Fort Hamilton) seems mostly white and PR, and that will be a pretty big shock to our oldest who's school now is about 65% black, 15% while, 15% hispanic.....

Any advice?
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Racially diverse middle income neighborhoods w good school and affordable housing for a family six will not be easy. It damn near may be impossible. I'd suggest NJ burbs like Montclair, W Orange, or Teaneck. A city nabe like Prospect Heights or Ft Greene in Brooklyn would fit the demographics, but you'd have to figure out the school part and I would not gamble on that head for the burbs. I know a bit about Jersey, but maybe others here can make suggestions abot LI, Queens, or Westchester if they fit your commuting needs better.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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Perhaps parts of East Elmhurst and Jamaica in Queens. In Nassau, look into Baldwin, Long Beach, West Hempstead, Valley Stream, Floral Park(Sewanhaka Schools) or perhaps the Malverne SD. Here's some information that you may like to look into: New York schools - NY elementary, middle and high school information

Mapping America ? Census Bureau 2005-9 American Community Survey - NYTimes.com

New York City Department of Education in New York, NY | GreatSchools

Also, if you want a diverse community/school district with a good sized Black population(including a good portion of it being of a Haitian background) and that is generally of high quality and with things to do, I'd look here: Nyack Public Schools - Homepage
Search for Public Schools - Search Results
Test Scores for Nyack Union Free School District | GreatSchools

Village of Nyack
Village of Upper Nyack |
Nyack, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
South Nyack, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Central Nyack, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Upper Nyack, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Valley Cottage, New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You could also look into other Rockland County school districts like North Rockland and Suffern. Spring Valley also has quite a few people of Haitian descent, but the schools have a shaky reputation in the area.

In Westchester County, you may like areas like New Rochelle, White Plains, Elmsford, Pelham, Tuckahoe and Valhalla(North White Plains).

New York schools - NY elementary, middle and high school information

New York schools - NY elementary, middle and high school information
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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ANYWHERE along the van wyck expressway.

Heres a map. It may help your choice.

QUeens is about just about 20% of each race down the line.

Those numbers might be slightly off because of such a high illegal immigrant population that goes uncounted but I guess its the best information available.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:31 PM
 
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The schools in the areas along the van wyck expressway aren't of the quality that the OP seems to be looking for. I'd go with the suggestions to look on LI or NJ. Depending on your commute, Rockland County might be rough. How about Westchester - White Plains, New Rochelle, or Fleetwood (Mount Vernon).
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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Thanks for the great replies! i don't think i want NJ though. I like the idea of Valley Stream and Westchester a lot. I've been to White Plains and like how it's a city of its own, but still close to NYC. Spring Valley and Nyack would be number one on my list, but I think they will be too far of a commute, no? My wife has family there and I love it. I wouldn't mind being in Queens or Brooklyn, but they seem very segregated, don't like that at all. That Map from the census bureau is GREAT! Some great resources, ckhthankGod! Thanks! I'll look into the area off of Van Wyck, hadn't heard of that. How about Staten?
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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Some other NJ communities to look into are: Maplewood, Englewood, Hackensack, Bloomfield, Linden, Carteret, Colonia, Rahway and Piscataway.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:15 PM
 
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Thanks for the great replies! i don't think i want NJ though. I like the idea of Valley Stream and Westchester a lot. I've been to White Plains and like how it's a city of its own, but still close to NYC. Spring Valley and Nyack would be number one on my list, but I think they will be too far of a commute, no? My wife has family there and I love it. I wouldn't mind being in Queens or Brooklyn, but they seem very segregated, don't like that at all. That Map from the census bureau is GREAT! Some great resources, ckhthankGod! Thanks! I'll look into the area off of Van Wyck, hadn't heard of that. How about Staten?
I don't think Spring Valley is too good.

As for SI, the plurality/majority Black areas generally aren't too good.

There are a few areas on SI where the Black population is around, say 15-20% that are alright (Ward Hill, Graniteville, and some parts of New Brighton and Mariners' Harbor).
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Thanks for the great replies! i don't think i want NJ though. I like the idea of Valley Stream and Westchester a lot. I've been to White Plains and like how it's a city of its own, but still close to NYC. Spring Valley and Nyack would be number one on my list, but I think they will be too far of a commute, no? My wife has family there and I love it. I wouldn't mind being in Queens or Brooklyn, but they seem very segregated, don't like that at all. That Map from the census bureau is GREAT! Some great resources, ckhthankGod! Thanks! I'll look into the area off of Van Wyck, hadn't heard of that. How about Staten?
If you like Nassau, it seems like Baldwin has the best Rep in regards to being generally fine and having more Black students than anything else, but still being a diverse school district of good quality. I believe that there is barely any graduation gap between the racial group as well. Here's another great guide to look into: https://reportcards.nysed.gov/counties.php?year=2010

and a couple more: Search for Public Schools - Search Results
Search For Schools, Colleges and Libraries

New York Schools - Find a Public or Private New York School - SchoolDigger.com

Also, where in NYC are you working?
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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If you're looking for working middle class neighborhoods they are plenty to choose from in Queens... The demographics of the schools might not be the same demographics of the schools in Atlanta but there will be enough diversity to the point that any problems at all of race shouldn't be a problem... Areas like East Elmhurst, Woodside, Woodhaven, Jamaica, Ridgewood, Jackson Heights, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, etc.

Also, if you are looking for a majority middle class area that is majority black or a large percentage of black people areas to look at in Queens would be St. Albans, Cambria Heights, Laurelton, Rosedale and even East Elmhurst to a certain extent though it has diversified in recent years... There are plenty of choices right here in the city but in terms of public schooling it may not be as up to par as the schools over there but the schooling isn't bad... There are many hard working public school teachers in the city but it really depends on the students to take the education and make something out of it... We as teachers do need to do a better job overall of getting to our students but the responsibility isn't solely a one way street...
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