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Old 11-28-2009, 02:30 PM
 
Location: THE THRONE aka-New York City
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That also annoy's me. Jersey is a whole different state, JC is a different city...in a whole different state. No true new yorker would suggest such a thing
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yonkers/Mount Vernon or Jersey City/Hoboken (yeah I said it lol).

I can see Yonkers/Mount Vernon being the 6th borough first because its actually in NY. It'd be interesting to see the rest of Queens join NYC.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:31 PM
 
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That also annoy's me. Jersey is a whole different state, JC is a different city...in a whole different state. No true new yorker would suggest such a thing
So, out of 4,000,000 people born in New York (conservative estimate), none would suggest Jersey City being incorporated into the city?

If I had to pick a sixth borough, it would be Hempstead or Yonkers. I personally don't like New Jersey, but I don't think it to be completely infeasible that Hudson County could one day be a borough, especially with the New York City secession movement gaining supporters.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:58 AM
 
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So, out of 4,000,000 people born in New York (conservative estimate), none would suggest Jersey City being incorporated into the city?
Perhaps it has something to do with reality. Don't you think it would touch off a huge political mess if a city within the borders of New Jersey tried to secede from that state and join up with New York? We don't need it, although I must say, I think it would be fascinating; we don't give that state the finger nearly as often as we should, and this would be an excellent opportunity.

As an alternative, I propose reviving the original 1895 proposal that wound up creating the city of five boroughs we know today. At that time, what we now refer to as Nassau County was included in the referendum. The western third voted to join Greater New York and became the borough of Queens. So now I think we should ask the rest of Nassau if they'd like to reconsider their original vote (we promise not to treat them unfairly if they hop on the bandwagon after more than a century. Honest!)

The name of this sixth borough is even waiting in the wings, since we've already got Kings and Queens Counties. It would be Prince--but only because Count County sounds silly.
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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Perhaps it has something to do with reality. Don't you think it would touch off a huge political mess if a city within the borders of New Jersey tried to secede from that state and join up with New York? We don't need it, although I must say, I think it would be fascinating; we don't give that state the finger nearly as often as we should, and this would be an excellent opportunity.

As an alternative, I propose reviving the original 1895 proposal that wound up creating the city of five boroughs we know today. At that time, what we now refer to as Nassau County was included in the referendum. The western third voted to join Greater New York and became the borough of Queens. So now I think we should ask the rest of Nassau if they'd like to reconsider their original vote (we promise not to treat them unfairly if they hop on the bandwagon after more than a century. Honest!)

The name of this sixth borough is even waiting in the wings, since we've already got Kings and Queens Counties. It would be Prince--but only because Count County sounds silly.
No more of a political mess than Iran-Contra. I think the southern half of Nassau should be included. I knew about the "great mistake of '98."
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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You must be joking. Bed-Stuy is HOT. excellent brownstones, Biggie, subway service, Close to Manhattan. ENY is ****ty, but not moreso than Newark. South Bronx has the Yankees, Hip-Hop and some nice tenement structures.

Honestly, I would dump all three (Newark, ENY, South Bronx), keep Bed-Stuy, and take Hoboken, Nassau county, and the JC wterfront. But then we'd have squiggle city. ;P
LOL @ you counting a dead rapper as an asset.
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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NYC should have a city feel.
NJ, Long Island and Upstate New York are suburban feel
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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Not even just the fact that nyc has a city feel, nyc has its own unique city feel. Thats why there could never be a true sixth borough
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Old 02-08-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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Bleh, more problems caused by government red tape... So goes NYC's hopes of staying competitive in the 21st century.

The NYC metro area would be better off if it seceded and became a state in its own right. There have been proposals for NYC secession in the past, though probably not for the whole 22+ mil mega-city involving counties from 3-4 separate states.

Other major cities in the U.S. should do that too, perhaps splitting California and Texas into several chunks. Illinois and Pennsylvania would particularly benefit from cutting out Chicago and Philadelphia, being otherwise conservative states. (Though I'm not sure what would be left of New Jersey and Maryland after the urban areas are taken out.)

All government is bad, but local government is less bad than a far-reaching centralized one because over time people can vote with their feet. Everyone would benefit from a civilized divorce: urban areas would get to keep more of their tax revenue, integrate with their immediate suburbs, get the social conservatives out of their hair, etc; and the more fiscally conservative areas would be able to cut down on the socialist spending they don't want.
And what the hell would you call this new state? You are NOT taking the "New York" title.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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And what the hell would you call this new state? You are NOT taking the "New York" title.
Y'all could keep that NY title lol. Kansas City is in Missouri, New York City can be in the state of ______.
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