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Old 02-12-2012, 08:56 PM
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1) The Third Avenue corridor, as well as the High Bridge/Morris Heights/University Heights area would benefit more, as those areas are denser. Co-Op City has a population density of roughly 35,000 people per square mile, whereas the two areas in the West Bronx I mentioned have population densities over 60,000 people per square mile.

And the population of Co-Op City is roughly 34,000, not 60,000.
It looks like Co-Op City is further from a subway stop than those West Bronx nabes. Also, taking the subway from Co-Op city (if the 6 or 5? was extended) would be a slow ride, slower than the west bronx subways.

A metro north could be quick if people only care about going to midtown, or up to New Rochelle / Connecticut. Easy commute to Greenwich.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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It looks like Co-Op City is further from a subway stop than those West Bronx nabes. Also, taking the subway from Co-Op city (if the 6 or 5? was extended) would be a slow ride, slower than the west bronx subways.

A metro north could be quick if people only care about going to midtown, or up to New Rochelle / Connecticut. Easy commute to Greenwich.
For a 5 extension, you'd either have to do some crazy loop to get into Co-Op City, or you'd end up reducing service to the stations on the northern end of the line (I'm too lazy to look at a map. I think those stations are Baychester Avenue and Dyre Avenue)

In any case, those areas in the West Bronx may be geographically closer to the subway, but it's more hilly, so the residents are really forced to take a bus to reach the subway. The bus ride can take 10-15 minutes, depending on which subway line you want. (They could take a bus all the way down to 149th Street, but that would take longer, unless they lived by the southern part of that corridor)

In any case, I'm not seeing your point about the 5 or 6 being a longer ride than from the West Bronx. Or are you saying that Metro-North service to Co-Op City should be a higher priority than subway service to Third Avenue?
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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The con's outwiegh the pro's. This benefits out of towners more than it does for the Bronx residents.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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The con's outwiegh the pro's. This benefits out of towners more than it does for the Bronx residents.
How so , the Extension benefits Bronx residents more then Westchester Residents , unless you throw in a Sunnyside station connecting to the LIRR then it benefits Bronx ,Westchester , Queens and LI residents. Overall the Pro's of this extension far outweigh the cons , which there aren't any....
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:42 AM
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How so , the Extension benefits Bronx residents more then Westchester Residents , unless you throw in a Sunnyside station connecting to the LIRR then it benefits Bronx ,Westchester , Queens and LI residents. Overall the Pro's of this extension far outweigh the cons , which there aren't any....
Well the con is the cost; but most of the train track is there at least
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Well the con is the cost; but most of the train track is there at least
Its a drop in the bucket compared to most expansion projects proposed in this region.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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How so , the Extension benefits Bronx residents more then Westchester Residents , unless you throw in a Sunnyside station connecting to the LIRR then it benefits Bronx ,Westchester , Queens and LI residents. Overall the Pro's of this extension far outweigh the cons , which there aren't any....
I think you are hitting on a "pro" that hasn't been discussed before and it could be an important one.Is it a fact that the proposal would lead to an easy transfer to the LIRR and Queens subway lines for Bronx( and Westchester or CT) residents ?

I would love to be able to get on a metro north train in Morris Park and transfer in Queens to the LIRR or Queens subway lines.It could make trips to Long Island and JFK much easier without having to go through Manhattan.

I've always thought there should be a subway line from The Bronx to Queens and then Brooklyn without going through Manhattan.I think that will never happen but this new metro north link COULD act in a similar way.

But are these kinds of links actually part of the plan ?
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:52 AM
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Would this Sunnyside station be the same as the current Woodside LIRR station?
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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The Sunnyside Station , Along with Dyckman Street and Pelham Manor stations would be phase 2....the East Side Access Project and Sunnyside Interchange need to be completed before any new station is built.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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Would this Sunnyside station be the same as the current Woodside LIRR station?
No, it would be further west of the Woodside station.

If you look on a satellite map, you'll see where the Amtrak Line meets the LIRR to go into Penn Station. The Sunnyside station would be in the area of that junction.
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