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Old 02-11-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Her is a good article in the NYTimes suggesting that Madison Square Garden be moved and Penn Station restored above ground. Discuss and debate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/ar...rkandnewjersey
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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Aren't they planning on moving Penn Station across the street where the post office is and calling it Moynihan Station or something

But regardless I think today MSG itself means more to most NYers than restoring Penn Station
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:50 PM
 
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That plan has been dead for quite some time. MSG is undergoing a 6 year billion dollar renovation as we speak.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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It's hard to "renovate" when you have taken a gorgeous building and torn it to the ground and built glass towers atop.
Whatever they do to Penn Station is will still be hole in the ground.
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Old 02-12-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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Even though its been 50 years its still shocking that anyone thought it was a good idea to tear down that world class structure and replace it with the fugly building there now.
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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It's gone, and it ain't coming back. Do NYers want to live in a museum like Europeans, or do they want to be able to knock stuff down and build new stuff from time to time?
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Old 02-12-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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It's gone, and it ain't coming back. Do NYers want to live in a museum like Europeans, or do they want to be able to knock stuff down and build new stuff from time to time?
Hmm, good idea! How about we knock MSG down, and build some "new stuff" (say, an improved, world-class train station) in its place?
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Even though its been 50 years its still shocking that anyone thought it was a good idea to tear down that world class structure and replace it with the fugly building there now.
The only good thing to come out of that was the establishment of the Landmarks & Preservation Commission--so that no such desecration is visited upon New York City again. (Hopefully, the people who made the original decision will be rotting in hell...which is nothing more than they deserve!)
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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It's gone, and it ain't coming back. Do NYers want to live in a museum like Europeans, or do they want to be able to knock stuff down and build new stuff from time to time?
I'm European and I assure you we do not live in museums at least, I don't...
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:15 AM
 
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It's gone, and it ain't coming back. Do NYers want to live in a museum like Europeans, or do they want to be able to knock stuff down and build new stuff from time to time?
There are many European cities that were destroyed and had to be rebuilt, so I assure you that they too have adapted to new structures.

Every couple years I hear plans about the Post Office/Penn Station/MSG. To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. I would be sad to lose the current MSG out of nostalgia. Penn Station I don't really care too much about.
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