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BB is aight to visit to eat some good Russian food, chill at the beach and chase Russian broads/whores. Otherwise it's str8 garbage, as most Russians living there. Matta fact, most non old Russians living in Southern BK are garbage. I say this as a Russian.
In regards to takeover, it began in the 70s when huge numbers of immigrants from USSR began coming through with quite a few gangsters posing as someone else, as was mentioned here. American government basically got duped, and USSR just got rid of numerous cutthroat criminals posing as discriminated Jews and Soviet political prisoners kinda what Castro did. Matta fact, many of the gangsters really WERE Russian Jews so it was hard to tell apparently.
Good thing they didn't mistake me or did they lol
Last edited by OleSchoolFool; 06-05-2012 at 10:20 PM..
Gotta be careful with those generalizations. You'll find that you probably don't appreciate it if someone else comes to that conclusion about your particular ethnicity or nationality.
Gotta be careful with those generalizations. You'll find that you probably don't appreciate it if someone else comes to that conclusion about your particular ethnicity or nationality.
He's right tho, we arent LOL
Seriously tho, it depends. Russians might not seem nice on the surface cuz we don't smile as much as Americans, and we are not trusting in the beginning (jus a culture thing and all the bs Russian people had to endure under Soviet regime made them that way), but once we get to know you, we can be real friendly. My most loyal friends have been Russian even tho I kicked it with everyone.
So yea, we can be nice, just not to everyone, but the selected few that are worth being nice to, and that's how it should be.
What is true tho, Russians are kinda wild and not as law abiding as others. They don't say "Russians are crazy" for nothing.
Last edited by OleSchoolFool; 06-07-2012 at 10:42 AM..
The "Russians" (there are several Russophone communities within New York City; the Jews, Russians, Ukrainians and newly arriving Central Asian migrants) came in with the aforementioned "immigrant subsidies" that began in the 70s and increased in the 80s.
While it has been difficult to get historical data on southern Brooklyn neighborhoods in the period between 1950 and 1990 (for some reason the local historiography prefers not mention it, probably because there was a slow decline), one could say that Brighton Beach was on its way to becoming an annex of Coney Island - rundown marginal neighborhood far away from the center. The Russian Jews, who dominated the first wave of immigration, reshaped the neighborhood into the ethnic enclave we know Brighton to be today. This enclave had (and has) a lot of cultural influence back in the "old country," with an outsized reputation. So the second immigration wave of the 1990s and 2000s, which saw a lot of Russians and Ukrainians come in, nevertheless concentrated on this fabled "Little Odessa" and its surrounding neighborhoods (and NYC in general). Thus, Sheepshead Bay, or certain segments thereof, has a Russian cultural influence. Indeed you'll find "Russians" throughout South Brooklyn, with small enclaves from Kensington downwards. Here, however, they are much more dispersed. Only Brighton Beach is a densely settled cultural ethnic enclave. So, while you'll find Russians in Bensonhurst, you are far more likely to notice the Chinese storefronts along 18th Ave.
I've compared it to Flushing, except on a somewhat smaller scale. Flushing is a huge Korea- and China-town, dense and settled with immigrants, that's on the end of a train line and the edge of Queens. Its location is marginal, but it remains a mecca for several ethnicities. You'll still find Asians all throughout Queens, though it's more of a demographic mix elsewhere. The same principle seems to apply to Brooklyn and Russians.
In any case, such is the story of Brighton Beach. In recent years it has diversified, in part because we have the influx of Central Asian immigrants who look and act quite a bit differently from the other Russophone groups and are more distinguishable to outsiders. (These Central Asian immigrants can also be found in Kensington.) The Hispanic community is still there in Brighton, too, and there are the South Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants.
And then there's the fact that, because most "Russians" are European white, they are quite "vulnerable" to cultural absorption. Children of Russian immigrants, and especially the grandchildren, will likely turn American, possibly move away elsewhere such as the suburbs, join the yuppie classes, marry outside, etc. So unless we get new waves of Russian immigrants, it's unlikely that this NY cultural phenomenon will stay for good. Russians who moved to, say, Queens, are already quite different from those who prefer to stay within the ethnic milieu that is Brighton and adjacent areas. Within a few generations Brighton may be like Greenpoint, technically ethnic but subject to greater demographic forces.
SE Asians? First I've heard of any asians in brooklyn that weren't chinese. What ethnicity are they there?
Yeah, there are tons of Asians of every color and shade in Brooklyn. In fact some hoods in Brooklyn went to become "well-formed" Chinatowns - lock, stock and barrel. Swamp Chinese with no traces of any culture or human decency dropped anchors in formerly Italian and Jewish areas creating filthy markets and overcrowding. Many of the old-timers running to Staten Island for better or worse. Hmmmm, back in the 80s had a feeling that they would fight for their areas for Brooklyn but apparently things changed.
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