NYC Safety Maps (New York, Webster, Monroe: trains, estimate, land)

[anon1]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

As far as the article you posted, here is a line from it:

Still, crime remains a sobering fact. In 2005, there were 22 murders, and 597 robberies and 562 felony assaults were reported.

I don't think they're putting wool over anybody's eyes.

As far as validity on SuperMario's beliefs, I'll let it rest.

Well yea I would hope so considering its arguably the worst hood in the city there recommending people to move into cause of cheap rents and condos...

That little line was also thrown somewhere in the middle of the article after discussing the major improvements its made since the 90s and how problems are normally concentrated to the projects and other nonsense like that... point being, no nyc newspaper article should ever be cited for proof of anything... some lean right, some lean far left and theres really nothing in between...

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

There are instances in this city where yes, walking a few feet does change the safety of the neighborhood. I don't care about demographics. I am just saying that yes, the safety level does changes, and I provided a few strong examples. If you strongly believe this is not the case on the Concourse, then I'll let it rest.

Find me 2 blocks with the same demographics and poverty level that are not the same crime wise.

Name me all the blocks that do see safety increase.

What pattern do you notice about the blocks in which safety increases?

Don't care about demographics? Try again.

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Find me 2 blocks with the same demographics and poverty level that are not the same crime wise.

Name me all the blocks that do see safety increase.

What pattern do you notice about the blocks in which safety increases?

Don't care about demographics? Try again.

My only point was that there are instances in the city where one block is good and the next block over is bad.

That's it.

If you want to take it a step further and illustrate exactly why, that's fine. Do you.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

My only point was that there are instances in the city where one block is good and the next block over is bad.

That's it.

If you want to take it a step further and illustrate exactly why, that's fine. Do you.

That's fine and dandy but you conveniently leave out that demographics, because it does not suit your GC argument. Blocks may change, but it's not the case with Sheridan and GC for reasons I stated. That's all im saying.

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by anon1

Well yea I would hope so considering its arguably the worst hood in the city there recommending people to move into cause of cheap rents and condos...

That little line was also thrown somewhere in the middle of the article after discussing the major improvements its made since the 90s and how problems are normally concentrated to the projects and other nonsense like that... point being, no nyc newspaper article should ever be cited for proof of anything... some lean right, some lean far left and theres really nothing in between...

Lol I think you're overreacting dude. Check the 1st 2 paragraphs:

A DENSELY packed 1,200-acre swath of central Brooklyn, Ocean Hill-Brownsville is not among the neighborhoods to have been swept up in the borough’s recent renaissance.

Its older housing stock is generally less elegant and well preserved than that in nearby Bedford-Stuyvesant. Its streets are not lined with charming cafes or whimsical boutiques. Its empty lots are not sprouting slick, glass-sheathed condominiums.

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

That's fine and dandy but you conveniently leave out that demographics, because it does not suit your GC argument. Blocks may change, but it's not the case with Sheridan and GC for reasons I stated. That's all im saying.

Actually the reason why I believe that the Concourse is safer is due to the higher pedestrian traffic and you're out in the open. The side blocks are real condensed. Much easier to shoot somebody and get away on those side blocks than on the wide open Concourse.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

Actually the reason why I believe that the Concourse is safer is due to the higher pedestrian traffic and you're out in the open. The side blocks are real condensed. Much easier to shoot somebody and get away on those side blocks than on the wide open Concourse.

Ok but University avenue and Southern Blvd are also wide open avenues. Those are no different than any other avenues.

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Ok but University avenue and Southern Blvd are also wide open avenues. Those are no different than any other avenues.

University, yes. Southern isn't as big....but University is off the beaten path. No train around there. So me that explains why it's a bad wide avenue.

[whitlock]

Southen Blvd is kinda crammed above Westchester Ave. but a wide open avenue north of CBE with Crotona Pkwy running parallel.

[Wes927]

I see Mother Gaston Blvd in ENY is purple. Not sure I've ever been down there. I assume purple is worse than red. Could we put "purple" into some adjectives?