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I think we should revise Southeast Queens. I heard Addesleigh Park is pretty nice, and I think we should have the yellow end at Farmers Blvd instead of Francis Lewis Blvd, except for possibly Hollis and Springfield Gardens.
I found some really nice homes in St. Albans east of Farmers Blvd.
I'm not too sure about the area south of the hospital, but I really think that Addesleigh Park and the areas east of Farmers Blvd should be unshaded, from say, 111th Avenue to Merrick Blvd.
I think we should revise Southeast Queens. I heard Addesleigh Park is pretty nice, and I think we should have the yellow end at Farmers Blvd instead of Francis Lewis Blvd, except for possibly Hollis and Springfield Gardens.
I found some really nice homes in St. Albans east of Farmers Blvd.
I'm not too sure about the area south of the hospital, but I really think that Addesleigh Park and the areas east of Farmers Blvd should be unshaded, from say, 111th Avenue to Merrick Blvd.
Areas in yellow can be considered somewhat seedy depending on who you ask, but the only reason to avoid them would be if you are COMPLETELY lacking in street smarts.
lol, yes I do. Have you been to the area recently? It's become so unbelievably gentrified- particularly the Myrtle-Dekalb area east of the park. It's all a mix of college kids, young professionals and families. I swear, with the number of strollers invading its turning into the next park slope. I guess I see your point around Classon/Willoughby/Lafayette with the projects over there. The furthest east I would even consider a yellow border is Hall st.
The fact that it is now so "gentrified" makes it a better target for crime pouring out of the nearby projects. Walked around there recently and noted almost every one had burglar bars. Note frequent reports of muggings around the southern edge of Fort Greene park.
Areas in yellow can be considered somewhat seedy depending on who you ask, but the only reason to avoid them would be if you are COMPLETELY lacking in street smarts.
Like I said, I would prefer it read as something else, but I can't think of a better description. It was originally meant to determine which areas have above-average crime, and to what extent, so a yellow area would only have slightly above-average crime levels. I don't even think that's the case in the areas I described.
When I labeled the yellow areas, I was thinking of some of the people from the LI forum (and a guy on another forum I'm on), and how they would react, compared to how people who live in NYC and are used to urban areas would react. They would say "Oh, my God, this is the hood", whereas we would say "Eh, this is a little below average, and there's a few issues here and there, but nothing serious".
Of course, like I said, this is taking the racial composition of the area out of the equation (because we all know some of those people go bonkers at the sight of a couple of Black people). So with that in mind, I don't think that St. Albans area even fits the standard for yellow.
Like I said a while ago, we could always try ranking the areas on a scale of 1-10, so everybody gets a better idea of how the area is.
So, according to the map it's perfectly safe to walk down 3rd Avenue to E 10th Street? I'm coming from Europe so I want to be sure.
Yeah, you'll be fine.
In any case, I'm going to start a map that assigns ratings to the areas in addition to the colors. That wy it kind of helps with areas on the border of 2 colors (for instance, I would think the yellow portion of South Jamaica isn't as good as the yellow portion of Springfield Gardens), and there are some areas I was thinking of shading yellow but decided not to.
I think this scale would work:
0: Purple area
1-2: Red area
3: Orange area
4-5: Yellow area
6-8: Light green area
9-10: Dark green area
I think it'll help those who are super-worried about safety in the area.
I'll try to see if I can fit the whole city into one map, but if not I'll end up doing it by borough (or maybe combining 2 boroughs, like Brooklyn & SI, and Queens & The Bronx)
Alright. Give me street boundaries of the part you want me to take out (again, I'm assuming you have some experience with the area to back this up).
The historic district should not be yellow. There are parts nearby the historic district that also should not be yellow, but at the very least, remove the yellow from the areas on this map at the bottom of the page at this link Jackson Heights Queens Neighborhood and Map
Here are some photos taken in the Jackson Heights historic district:
House and apartment building, 86th St. between 34th and 35th Ave.
garden and apartment buildings, 34th Ave near 80th St.
Greenmarket at Travers Park, 34th Ave near 78th St.
Last edited by Henna; 07-05-2012 at 06:39 PM..
Reason: changed list order of photos
The historic district should not be yellow. There are parts nearby the historic district that also should not be yellow, but at the very least, remove the yellow from the areas on this map at the bottom of the page at this link Jackson Heights Queens Neighborhood and Map
Here are some photos taken in the Jackson Heights historic district:
House and apartment building, 86th St. between 34th and 35th Ave.
garden and apartment buildings, 34th Ave near 80th St.
Greenmarket at Travers Park, 34th Ave near 78th St.
Didn't you already tell me the boundaries of what shouldn't be yellow? I already took those out. That's why that yellow area is oddly-shaped.
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