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Old 03-06-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: South Bronx
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I checked out this place last Friday night. The drinks were very good and the place had a laid back feel to it. I plan on going back with a lady friend.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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Nice...thanks for opining. Was it very crowded?
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: North Bergen,NJ
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The South Bronx, which I believe is district 16 is one of the poorest in the nation. And I believe you when you say it's changing, but apparently at a very low pace. There are no hip areas in the Bronx, let alone in the South Bronx. So something somewhat pretentious like a "Martini Bar" in the ghetto won't fly.

No to mention that the rate of sucess of restaurants/bars regardless of location in NYC is no more than 25%.

might get better biz if they opened a fast-food joint instead.
I'm not saying I'm for or against this place but your logic is off. Look at Bushwick look at Williamsburg. If those two dumps did it why would you think Mott Haven couldnt? Once again I'm not saying I'm for or against it but if your logic is simply because the neighborhood is scary and poor, it aint gonna fly.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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Bushwick is still a dump^^^^

The rents may be higher in some areas with a couple wide-eyed marshmallows lurkin around, but it's still a dump.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Likeminas...there is lots of poverty but also a growing middle class population, so if you ask who they are catering to, it's the same group who bought the $500K lofts at Bronx Bricks, the same people buying into the Via Verde development, the same people buying the $400K single family brownstones, and the same people who are paying $2,000 to rent at the Clocktower building, the same people who will be shopping at the new Fresca Gourmet Market, and the same people who are continuing to move to the community....middle class residents who are grossly underserved and require better amenities. By the way, having a martini bar is a far cry from spending $800 on a Louis Vuitton purse....so take a breath and relax. It's ok to serve ALL of the population, and not just the destitute, right?
I couldn't rep you anymore so I had to highlight this response. Dead-the ***-on! This comment is 100% true for ANY area that's going through a re-birth: Harlem, Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, etc. The middle incomers (who, I'll point out, in almost any other part of the country would be considered top income earners) can't afford a million dollar condo but can afford a $500K condo. The 'middle incomers' who want certain types of features or amenities in a home but are priced out of similar homes in other so called desirable areas. So instead of paying 1.5 million for a semi-decent two bedroom co-op in the upper west side, they move two stops up and get a much, much, larger 2 bedroom (with a terrace) in brand new luxury condo in Harlem for 1/2 the price. Or, they are priced out of Harlem and move three stops up, to the South Bronx. Not everyone that is part of the "gentry" is scared of melanin and/or Spanish. You get enough of these people moving in, and then the amenities to service them will soon follow. I can tell you that those coffee shops Bed Stuy are packed to the brim with Mac Book typing, horned rim glasses wearing "new" residents and are never short on customers even though the neighborhood is still majority lower income.

And an LV purse is about $2000 LOL
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: North Bergen,NJ
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Bushwick is still a dump^^^^

The rents may be higher in some areas with a couple wide-eyed marshmallows lurkin around, but it's still a dump.
Oh believe me I know. I guess I should have said a dump in transition as opposed to a dump that has already made it (williamsburg).
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:25 PM
 
Location: South Bronx
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Nice...thanks for opining. Was it very crowded?
Not crowded, I showed up close to midnight and there were about 10 - 15 people in there.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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The area needs these type of establishments to become a destination. Also more affluent people demand these sort of nightlife venues. Something local to do on the weekend. Port Morris/lower Mott Haven will be one of the first neighborhoods in the Bronx to fully transition.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Upscale anything in the South Bronx?
with almost half of the population there living in poverty, who are they catering to?


What's next a louis vuitton store in Brownsville?
i agree. grand opening. grand closing. disaster in the making.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Can I get a chocolate-cherry martini with a double scoop of Haagen Dasz?
(That should work well as an emetic for anyone who likes REAL martinis.)
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