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Old 03-29-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NY,NY
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Harlem is at the upper end of Manhattan, Washington heights is a neighborhood in West Harlem, bed-stuy is in Brooklyn
If you don't know a thing for certain then why post? Giving out incorrect information is just wrong.

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At the OP,

You really need to do some serious homework re NYC. Moving here on a limited budget w/o knowing what you are doing can lead to great financial difficulties, as well as safety issues.

Generally, the cheaper the neighborhood the greater the crime and other social issues. Moving to any of these areas as a novice to this city is a very dicey proposition.

Your lack of knowledge is incredibly apparent, and NYC may be beyond your imagings. You need to adjust your mindset and do it quickly!

First, NYC consists of 5 **Boroughs**, they are not "towns", but rather separately each of the first 4 would qualify as the 3rd or 4th largest city in America. Another way to conceive of NYC's size w/b to take 4 or 5 of the biggest cities in the country together and then you w/h NYC!!

Within each Borough are several dozen neighborhoods, and within neighborhoods there are sub-areas. Neighborhhods are neighborhoods NOT towns!

Realize that you cannot comprehend NYC thru a suburban prism, it is NOT suburbia!

The thing you need to know about Harlem and Washington Heights is that both are in upper Manhattand and distant from the center of Manhattan which is the business district.

Bedford-Styvesant is in the Borough of Brooklyn and is east of Manhattan across the East River. To reach Manhattan from Brooklyn, by car or subway, a bridge or tunnel must be uttilized.

What you need to comprehend about each of those neighborhoods are the crime and social issues which is why the rent is cheap. Transplants find these areas appealing, because they seem affordable to those desparate to live in NYC, but refuse to accept that they cannot afford to live decently, safely, nor cheaply in NYC. NYC is simply a place many cannot afford!! Many find this out after a very short stint in one of these neighborhoods.

Life in these neighborhoods can be incredibly unpleasant for those who have known nothing, but surburan middle class life.

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My apartment is above 125th on lenox. thanks for the advice. No I haven't signed the lease yet I am visiting in april. If I don't like the area then I will find someplace else but its not really a problem. I am assuming most neighborhoods will have decent acces to public transportation. Looking forward to my move.
You WILL have difficulty securing an apartment with your budget in a decent let alone nice area. Minimum budget for a fair place in a fair area is between $1200 and $1600; and comprehend '"fair" will likely be far less than what you imagine. Note the gap in what you state as your budget and what is "fair".

So, you will start here, in NYC, at a less than "fair" quality of life!!
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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As I said before, I was trying to simplify things for someone that's never been to nyc. I dont think most non-New Yorkers know what the terms uptown or downtown refer to.

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Originally Posted by jcoltrane View Post
If you don't know a thing for certain then why post? Giving out incorrect information is just wrong.

****

At the OP,

You really need to do some serious homework re NYC. Moving here on a limited budget w/o knowing what you are doing can lead to great financial difficulties, as well as safety issues.

Generally, the cheaper the neighborhood the greater the crime and other social issues. Moving to any of these areas as a novice to this city is a very dicey proposition.

Your lack of knowledge is incredibly apparent, and NYC may be beyond your imagings. You need to adjust your mindset and do it quickly!

First, NYC consists of 5 **Boroughs**, they are not "towns", but rather separately each of the first 4 would qualify as the 3rd or 4th largest city in America. Another way to conceive of NYC's size w/b to take 4 or 5 of the biggest cities in the country together and then you w/h NYC!!

Within each Borough are several dozen neighborhoods, and within neighborhoods there are sub-areas. Neighborhhods are neighborhoods NOT towns!

Realize that you cannot comprehend NYC thru a suburban prism, it is NOT suburbia!

The thing you need to know about Harlem and Washington Heights is that both are in upper Manhattand and distant from the center of Manhattan which is the business district.

Bedford-Styvesant is in the Borough of Brooklyn and is east of Manhattan across the East River. To reach Manhattan from Brooklyn, by car or subway, a bridge or tunnel must be uttilized.

What you need to comprehend about each of those neighborhoods are the crime and social issues which is why the rent is cheap. Transplants find these areas appealing, because they seem affordable to those desparate to live in NYC, but refuse to accept that they cannot afford to live decently, safely, nor cheaply in NYC. NYC is simply a place many cannot afford!! Many find this out after a very short stint in one of these neighborhoods.

Life in these neighborhoods can be incredibly unpleasant for those who have known nothing, but surburan middle class life.



You WILL have difficulty securing an apartment with your budget in a decent let alone nice area. Minimum budget for a fair place in a fair area is between $1200 and $1600; and comprehend '"fair" will likely be far less than what you imagine. Note the gap in what you state as your budget and what is "fair".

So, you will start here, in NYC, at a less than "fair" quality of life!!
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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IndieRy, you said Washington Heights is a neighborhood in West Harlem. How is that helping and outsider when it is totally wrong? And no matter how much you want it to be true, Harlem is not the northern tip of Manhattan. Moderator cut: Not necessary

Last edited by bmwguydc; 03-31-2012 at 02:46 AM.. Reason: Not necessary
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Educate yourself you Harlem-centric person. To you Upper Manhattan = Harlem............come to the real uptown and get acquainted to us spanish speaking brown folks.

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Old 03-29-2012, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Generally, the cheaper the neighborhood the greater the crime and other social issues. Moving to any of these areas as a novice to this city is a very dicey proposition.
That's not necessarily true. Distance to Midtown & Downtown Manhattan plays a role in the rent prices. For the price you're paying to live in a dodgy part of Upper Manhattan, you could potentially live in a perfectly safe neighborhood in Staten Island. The problem of course, is the commute.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: south carolina
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Guys. I am not worried about crime I have grown up and always have lived in areas with high crime. I was just asking for general info and looking for people who actually live in these areas. Thank jcoltrane for the information, but I don't think it is really going to be much different from where I live now. From what I am reading Harlem is majority black american which is the same here in South carolina.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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J Coltrane pretty much said it all btw im from SC and NYC is a different animal.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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Ahh, I see, I was trying to make it a little clearer for someone that's never been to nyc, just in terms of geography.
lol broscience
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Nobody here has mentioned that you might consider looking for a share instead of your own apartment. If your budget is only $800 then I can tell you right now that you will probably not find anything even close to Manhattan, Harlem or not.

It would be do-able in any of the areas you mentioned if you just rented a room though instead of an entire place alone. You wouldn't get roped into any contracts either so you could leave easily if you decide you don't like it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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Guys. I am not worried about crime I have grown up and always have lived in areas with high crime. I was just asking for general info and looking for people who actually live in these areas. Thank jcoltrane for the information, but I don't think it is really going to be much different from where I live now. From what I am reading Harlem is majority black american which is the same here in South carolina.
Trust us, it's not correlation.

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Nobody here has mentioned that you might consider looking for a share instead of your own apartment. If your budget is only $800 then I can tell you right now that you will probably not find anything even close to Manhattan, Harlem or not.

It would be do-able in any of the areas you mentioned if you just rented a room though instead of an entire place alone. You wouldn't get roped into any contracts either so you could leave easily if you decide you don't like it.
I was just about to post this!
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