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The bigger question is, why are we comparing a neighborhood to a collection of very different neighborhoods. I disagree that areas like Morrisania and East Tremont are in line with Harlem, but I agree we are too general.
It would have been better for the op to compare harlem vs mott haven instead of the whole bronx. it does not make any sense comparing a neighborhood in manhattan vs an e entire county.
For people saying 1,100 can't get you anything thats laughable. One of my good friends lives in a studio in washington heights for 650 a month and another lives with roomates for 700-750 in harlem. Ridiculous, not everyone makes a lavish amount, doesnt mean you have to offer them the worst areas possible.
SoBroguy or whatever his handle is, I believe is a landlord in the South Bronx, so that comment represents his fantasy on what rents are in his area and how desirable the area is.
You can get a 1 BR in Parkchester for $975-1100. 35 minutes to the LES. 45-55 with a transfer to the (F) or (J).
Even if you are in Central Harlem or Inwood the Commute would still be around the same.
I think it might still be shorter for the simple reason that the transfer to the (F) is easier coming from Harlem or Inwood. From Harlem, just take the (A) or (D) to West 4th and then transfer to the (F) (or (M) if that works for you), and from Inwood, you do the same thing except you don't have the option of the (D).
From Parkchester, you have to take the (6) to the (4)(5), and then take that to 14th Street, transfer back to the (6) (or else you'd have to sit through all the local stops in Manhattan), and then take that to Bleecker Street for the (F). Going back, the northbound transfer from the (F) to the (6) isn't open yet, so I don't know what you're going to do there, unless you have an Unlimited MetroCard or don't mind paying a second fare. Maybe take the (J) to the (4)/(5), but that would be backtracking.
Any of the areas along the (4)(5) or (6) in The Bronx I'd probably avoid for commuting reasons. During rush hour, the Lexington Avenue Line is the most crowded in the city, and then the transfer to get to the LES is a PITA.
It would have been better for the op to compare harlem vs mott haven instead of the whole bronx. it does not make any sense comparing a neighborhood in manhattan vs an e entire county.
To be fair Harlem is a big area not really a neighborhood. There are like 5 sub neighborhoods within harlem. The Bronx meanwhile has a lot of neighborhoods that are similar.
27 years with the exception of military, college (at another major American city) and traveling abroad
A lot of visitors to this board do not realize the Bronx has been being gentrified for some time. If this wasn't the case they would not be offering market rate units at new constructions, or they would not have build so many townhouse throughout the 90s.
I must add though that's are parts of the Bronx (and Harlem) with serious issues with violent crime. The kind of places you really need to watch your back.
I don't see why you all seem to think that Washington Heights, Inwood and Harlem are "Better" or "safer" than comparable areas of the Bronx. On what do you all base your opinions? I thik you're all still stuck in the historical perception about how bad th Bronx used tp be. That was ten or twenty years ago, and a lot has changed. Stop selling the Bronx short.
I stated seeing improvements in the middle to late 90's.
To be fair Harlem is a big area not really a neighborhood. There are like 5 sub neighborhoods within harlem. The Bronx meanwhile has a lot of neighborhoods that are similar.
You are correct. Hamilton Heights, Central Harlem, El Barrior, Morningside Heights and West Harlem. 96th Street/East River or 96th Street/Hudson River and 155th Street East River/155th Street Hudson River. Harlem is bordered by Washington Height North and Upper East Side (South East) and Upper West Side (South West).
It really does matter WHERE your work destination is. "The F train" is pretty vague.
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