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Old 04-19-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I agree with this completely,especially since such an overwhelming percentage of the crime occurs in and around NYCHA projects.In fact,it may be the only realistic way of effecting real change.And it wouldn't cost much in the scheme of things.
I started a thread a few months back asking people if they'd buy an apt in the PJs and got laughed off the page. But something has to happen with NYCHA. The housing is aging and there's a long list of poor people waiting to get in. I hope someone's looking at this ...
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
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This always brings me back to old NYC, circa mid 60s


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Old 04-19-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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wow what a happy song

i like this one


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Old 04-20-2012, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I agree with this completely,especially since such an overwhelming percentage of the crime occurs in and around NYCHA projects.In fact,it may be the only realistic way of effecting real change.And it wouldn't cost much in the scheme of things.
Its not only NYCHA projects but also tenements with high rate of section8 occupants as well even crime exist in front of Mitchell Lama properties also. The only way to end crime in these areas is to change the mindset of the occupants before its too late, then again it would cost the government billions to do that.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I started a thread a few months back asking people if they'd buy an apt in the PJs and got laughed off the page. But something has to happen with NYCHA. The housing is aging and there's a long list of poor people waiting to get in. I hope someone's looking at this ...
Yes, I remember that thread.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Start offering municipal workers ownership if they move in at great prices. So basically the city will make some its money back that they pay them to perform their civil services. And split each building 50% own, 50% rental. Preference to civil servants. NYCHA is severely mismanaged.
Problem is, this has been done in the TIL (tenant interim leases) buildings.

Let me describe just one such building nearby. Experience has taught me that the below scenario is typical in these properties.

As is well known in the area, at least three of the residents are openly involved in drug sales - conveniently enough, because many of the residents use them. That and "lotto" are major occupations. Two of the residents are involved in basement pit bull breeding. One resident is wanted for drug dealing and for beating his child, a problem he resolved by hiding in his mother's first floor apartment - where aforementioned child is often present. When authorities look for this guy, they check the third floor place where his (former ? who knows) wife and FIVE children (under the age of ten) reside. He is not there, of course, instead hiding out some floors below.

This person has never been employed, and there, he is exemplary of the majority of residents in this building, and the one across the street, and the one next door ...

These are the facts, everyone. I could not help but wonder, recently, why these buildings are not used for working people of modest income instead of for the benefit of the generational welfare types who happened to be in residence when the city took the building from the former owner. This is usually due to tax default.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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So, we have a number of thoughts on why this situation is what it is.
Do you have any thoughts on how they can improve?
YES. Start with rap singers to dress in suits and rap a different tone.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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YES. Start with rap singers to dress in suits and rap a different tone.
Yes that should definitely help.
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: NYC
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YES. Start with rap singers to dress in suits and rap a different tone.
Changing the clothes won't change what's inside. People are angry. It's all over today's music. Probably why I prefer the old stuff.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: USA
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maybe urban renewal and highrise projects were designed
on purpose to keep all the "derelicts" and "undesirables" in
one spot on the smallest piece of land as possible to fight
over space and air to breath. Now that the monster is too
big, people who don't live there and have not experienced
it want to complain because it negatively affects society as
a whole, but it was all inhumane from the start. That's why
so many people who live there are not coping. It's just like
slaveship conditions; same formula.
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