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Old 06-26-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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It's not about the school, it's about who goes there. I went to Christ the King for a year and found out the truth; teachers are not any better than in Public Schools, the school just picks students with high grades. It's a lot easier to boast about your test scores when you don't have to bear the brunt of those who don't like education. Public schools legally cannot exclude the low scorers.

Also immigrants in general tend to score very high. Not just Asians, but also Jamaican, Russian, Egyptian and Indian immies. I don't know why, it could be just a Queens thing
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Statewide ranking of good "black majority" brooklyn schools, which beat bayside schools by miles.

#9 Ps 235 Lenox School
#19 Is 392

#53 Junior High School 74 Nathaniel Hawthorne District #26 Bayside
#106 Middle School 158 Marie Curie District #26 Bayside
#218 Bell Academy District #25 Bayside

Or am I looking at a different bayside?


#9 Ps 235 Lenox School
African American: 1273 (94.6%)

American Indian: 4 (0.3%)
Asian: 20 (1.5%)
Hispanic: 42 (3.1%)
Pacific Islander: 0 (0%)
Two or more races: 0 (0%)

White: 7 (0.5%)
Not Specified:0 (0%)

Eligible for discounted/free lunch: 74.3%
#19 Is 392
African American: 238 (80.7%)
American Indian: 2 (0.7%)
Asian: 15 (5.1%)
Hispanic: 38 (12.9%)
Pacific Islander: 0 (0%)
Two or more races: 0 (0%)

White: 2 (0.7%)
Not Specified:0 (0%)

Eligible for discounted/free lunch: 0%
Is this PS235 you are talking about?

Ps 235 Lenox School, Brooklyn NY School Profile, Ranking, and Reviews - SchoolDigger.com

Do you want to send your kids there?
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Plandome, NY
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On School digger go to: New York Middle School Rankings, 6th, 7th, 8th Grades Combined
NY State Assessments English Language Arts & NY State Assessments Math
2011-2012.

PS184 Chinatown is ranked 8th in NY STATE. Majority asian, and has high amount of low income students.

My conclusion - your anecdotal nonsense about your brother's cousin's pet dog's teacher is
seems like we have members here who can't read
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:47 AM
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seems like we have members here who can't read
I assume you are referring to yourself? I'll admit to have trouble reading the subject verb-agreement in your made-up of story of two cousins who then become a single "he"....
Thats the problem with making up stories, your subconscious outs you in the end.

Did you even look at the test scores provided on the website? Or are you just more interested in maintaining your postion despite the facts. Go ahead, knock yourself out.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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Is this PS235 you are talking about?

Ps 235 Lenox School, Brooklyn NY School Profile, Ranking, and Reviews - SchoolDigger.com

Do you want to send your kids there?

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/NY/schoolrank.aspx

see #9 in brooklyn.

But bayside schools aren't so good as this thread indicates despite their overwhelming asian populations. neither are the little necks, great necks or other LI schools as people have been talking about. Lots of the top 50 are still within NYC.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Somehow the above link changes to grades 3 4 5 after pasting. I was looking at middle school though.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:19 PM
bg7
 
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New York State Elementary Schools - NY School Rankings

see #9 in brooklyn.

But bayside schools aren't so good as this thread indicates despite their overwhelming asian populations. neither are the little necks, great necks or other LI schools as people have been talking about. Lots of the top 50 are still within NYC.

NYC public schools - the largest public school system in the world. Not suprisingly, there are excellent schools here - the city has many of the top schools within the state.
Having said that, the majority of HS in NYC do not meet the grade. The city graduation rate is around 60-65%! Plus many of the best schools are selective and tough to get in, and have limited non-academic programs. Sports fields, swimming pools and gyms exist but they are few and far between in NYC HS. Any Jo Schmo moving to Great Neck gets his kids into good schools, they are zoned by zip.

Plus Bloomer's emphasis on grading by test scores - that has a result in getting a lot of good test scores, some would say to the detriment of other parts of education that get emphasized more in non-city schools.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:22 PM
 
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It's not about the school, it's about who goes there. I went to Christ the King for a year and found out the truth; teachers are not any better than in Public Schools, the school just picks students with high grades. It's a lot easier to boast about your test scores when you don't have to bear the brunt of those who don't like education. Public schools legally cannot exclude the low scorers.

Also immigrants in general tend to score very high. Not just Asians, but also Jamaican, Russian, Egyptian and Indian immies. I don't know why, it could be just a Queens thing
Very good points. There are excellent teachers in low ranked schools. Ranking of citywide G&T schools like NEST+ and Anderson does not tell much about their teaching achievements. The students there started on a higher ground and having better self- or parent-motivation behind. Nonetheless these schools in general provide an environment that is more inspiring for learning. As for immigrant kids, they have less distractions from complicated social networks in this country.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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another asian-rich school with below average ranking and above average % of discounted/free lunch:

Ps 217 Colonel David Marcus School
African American: 169 (12.4%)
American Indian: 3 (0.2%)
Asian: 714 (52.3%)
Hispanic: 280 (20.5%)
Pacific Islander: 0 (0%)
Two or more races: 0 (0%)

White: 199 (14.6%)
Not Specified:0 (0%)

Eligible for discounted/free lunch: 88.5%
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:11 PM
 
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I no longer believe in the stereotype that asians in NYC are better school performers after my own research... there are good, average, and poor students just like in any other groups.
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