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Old 04-30-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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A good article this.

BBC News - Fish farming in a high-rise world

"Imagine an inner city where most people eat what they can grow, and raise, on their own doorstep. A place where community gardens teem with bees, vegetables, chickens, and... fish.
That's the utopian vision of New Yorker Christopher Toole.
A pioneer in the latest urban farming craze - freshwater tilapia - he is leading a movement in the dilapidated South Bronx called "aquaponics"."
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I don't see this happening on a large scale in NYC. I can't see people raising smelly fish in their high rise apartments. Nor can I see enough people being able to raise enough vegetables to even provide the smallest fraction of a percent of the food needs of the dense NYC population. This is a hipster, utopian dream in NYC at least.

This type of approach might work in a place like Detroit, where vast stretches of the city have already been torn down and farmers are starting to experiment with raising crops there.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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lol...good luck with that.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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With the way the economy is going, there is a lot of industrial space that is being abandoned by their tenants, either because they are out of business, or cannot renew because too expensive. There is room for a small scale operation assuming you need a large space for some real aquaculture. But can that company make enough money while still being competitive with the aquafarmers elsewhere price wise? Maybe if transportation costs skyrocket.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Fish Farming might be possible in the future if more advanced technology makes it easier to raise fish.
But in terms of produce farming there's been huge steps on the right direction and a lot of newer buildings are making gardens on their rooftops.


Check out the Brooklyn Navy Yard warehouse. Soon it will be the nation's largest rooftop garden.


Brooklyn to host nation’s largest rooftop garden | SmartPlanet
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Aquaponics encourages people to grow fish in their high-rise bathrooms

So you rent a $3000/month apartment and prorate the cose of the bathtub/shower combo at say $400/month, give or take. You put in $100 worth of your labor, cost of fish food, cost of young fish, etc, so $500 gives you a fish meal 3 times a week ...if anyone can BEAR tilapia 3 times a week (it is not a good fish, only a cheap resiilient one) THen you get to gut and scale the things. So $500 gets you 13 meals at $ 38.46 per meal.
If you can shop welll you can find tilapia for $2.99-$3.99/lb already cleaned and filleted.

Remeber too, your bathtub production takes 6 months to produce the first edible sized fish,

And then there are the daily trips to a kindly neighbor, soon to be an enemy, to use his shower beore work day in and day out.


Tilapia, formerly a junkn fish, is raised commercially on waste lands with cheap labor, often Asia, or in the for a good reason.

"Honey, we paid $50,000 for our bathroom and in 6 months we'll get a TILAPIA MEAL."
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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So you rent a $3000/month apartment and prorate the cose of the bathtub/shower combo at say $400/month, give or take. You put in $100 worth of your labor, cost of fish food, cost of young fish, etc, so $500 gives you a fish meal 3 times a week ...if anyone can BEAR tilapia 3 times a week (it is not a good fish, only a cheap resiilient one) THen you get to gut and scale the things. So $500 gets you 13 meals at $ 38.46 per meal.
If you can shop welll you can find tilapia for $2.99-$3.99/lb already cleaned and filleted.

Remeber too, your bathtub production takes 6 months to produce the first edible sized fish,

And then there are the daily trips to a kindly neighbor, soon to be an enemy, to use his shower beore work day in and day out.


Tilapia, formerly a junkn fish, is raised commercially on waste lands with cheap labor, often Asia, or in the for a good reason.

"Honey, we paid $50,000 for our bathroom and in 6 months we'll get a TILAPIA MEAL."
Exactly. A lot of people who promote "sustainable" or "green" living don't stop to figure out the cost/benefit of their schemes.

At my office, the "green" committee decided to eliminate the convenience of paper cups in our kitchenette. That's great, except now when people wash their own beverage holders, they use the paper towels available in the kitchen to dry them off--so just as much if not more paper gets used. I recognize the effort we all need to make toward producing less waste, but I find a lot of the "sustainable" efforts to be disingenuous and for show.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I'm for planting trout in the ponds of our parks were ppl could try fishing for a small fee. But you would not be allowed to keep your catch because I suspect many would throw them in the nearest garbage can.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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A good article this.

BBC News - Fish farming in a high-rise world

"Imagine an inner city where most people eat what they can grow, and raise, on their own doorstep. A place where community gardens teem with bees, vegetables, chickens, and... fish.
That's the utopian vision of New Yorker Christopher Toole.
A pioneer in the latest urban farming craze - freshwater tilapia - he is leading a movement in the dilapidated South Bronx called "aquaponics"."
Lol, not going to lie my eyes saw "aquaponics" but my brain read "hydroponics".

But hey it would be better than what we eat now in all likelihood,

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/401981...xic-chemicals/
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