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Old 05-04-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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And Presidential elections usually have a higher turnout than local ones. Until people stop whining and start voting, nothing is going to change anywhere.
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Over 130million, or about ~60% of the eligible voting population turned out in 2008. Obama won by over 8 million votes.
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The total number of votes cast for all candidates was 131,257,328.
Yeah, he was very wrong on the absolute numbers. He was dead on, though, when he said that the voter participation is shockingly low in this country. Have you looked up such rates in other countries? They make Americans look like pathetic, entitled, losers. Oh wait -
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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When no actual choice is given to voters, a natural tendency for a lot of them is to NOT VOTE. Seems reasonable.

For most of recent U.S. history the choice has been only between the two wings of the Capitalist Party: the right wing and the extremely right wing.

Other choices are not allowed.

Like Germans being allowed to vote for Hitler's successor given the choice of Goering or Himmler, why bother?

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Old 05-05-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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OWS...
:::::yawn:::::
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Deep Inside Goldman Sachs' Sphincter
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Bout 2 head down there 2night after a fat spliff . see whats good wit the females dwn there.
Don't forget to slap-on some deodorant or they'll smell you coming from a mile away ...and escape!
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: The Present
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Let's take a look at some of the crowd, as profiled here.


(would smash btw)


Now granted these people do not represent every single OWS'r. But when they are getting themselves in the spotlight like this..........I just have to laugh.
I would smash too

That first girl looked Skrillex if he got a sex change.

I can't help but laugh and at the same time be dismayed by those profiles. I'd be surprised if any of them knew who Adam Smith was. There's only one way for change to really occur in this country and it won't be pretty.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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When no actual choice is given to voters, a natural tendency for a lot of them is to NOT VOTE. Seems reasonable.

For most of recent U.S. history the choice has been only between the two wings of the Capitalist Party: the right wing and the extremely right wing.

Other choices are not allowed.
There are currently almost 40 candidates for President. There are socialists, libertarians, Constitutionalists, republicans, conservationists, and everything in between and on the fringes.

Lack of choice is not a problem the voters have. Laziness is.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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There are currently almost 40 candidates for President. There are socialists, libertarians, Constitutionalists, republicans, conservationists, and everything in between and on the fringes.

Lack of choice is not a problem the voters have. Laziness is.


All for show to give some semblance of Democracy, there is indeed only ONE candidate for president and he has two faces both facing right.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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All for show to give some semblance of Democracy, there is indeed only ONE candidate for president
What?

Technically, there are exactly 381 candidates who could all be elected if we voted for them.
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2011/p..._form2nm.shtml

There are a few dozen actual campaigns ongoing right now. Just because the media doesn't report on them doesn't mean they don't exist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ent_candidates

There's no excuse for bad government when you have the power to vote nearly anyone of any political persuasion in. IT'S OUR OWN DAMN FAULT.

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Old 05-05-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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They did not shutdown for the winter, they were preparing for the next phase. To those who want to criticize, it may seem like they all went home to lie on the beach in Florida, but the reality was much different.
So SobroGuy, if I don't shower for a few weeks, run up and down the street breaking windows and destroying anything in my path, do you think my bank will raise my line of credit?
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So SobroGuy, if I don't shower for a few weeks, run up and down the street breaking windows and destroying anything in my path, do you think my bank will raise my line of credit?
Yeah, go give it a shot.
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