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Old 05-10-2012, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Read up:

Census Analysis Shows Shifts in New York City's Makeup - NYTimes.com

Some interesting facts from the article:

New housing lured residents to the south central Bronx, which experienced net gains in migration and in births over deaths for the first time in decades. The Bronx was the second-fastest-growing borough, after Staten Island.

Brooklyn, which accounted for 49,000 of the city’s 100,000 loss in black residents, experienced its own version of suburbanization as blacks moved from the borough’s densely populated center to the fringes in Canarsie and East New York.

More whites left than arrived in every borough except Manhattan.
It looks like african americans moved out of bed stuy to east ny and anglophone west indians moved out of crown heights to canarsie.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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Well the data does not support the assertion that Dominicans have stopped coming to NYC. What it said is more Dominicans have left...which simply means many can be coming, but a little more left. And that doesn't really surprise me...Dominicans are a little behind on the curve when it comes to buying, so being a first time home buyer is profoundly difficult in NYC, so moving out of NY to more affordable places to buy a home is normal.

Mexicans however are still in "make 10 babies" mode of the 1950s, so the never ending Mexican immigration and births will make their numbers increase quickly in NYC. They are all about mutliplying...so if you have Mexicans living in your building, remember not to get them wet or feed them after midnight! =)
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Harlem World
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Looks like NYC is destined to become another Los Angeles.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Got that place is so horrible Make it stop please
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Harlem World
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Well the data does not support the assertion that Dominicans have stopped coming to NYC. What it said is more Dominicans have left...which simply means many can be coming, but a little more left. And that doesn't really surprise me...Dominicans are a little behind on the curve when it comes to buying, so being a first time home buyer is profoundly difficult in NYC, so moving out of NY to more affordable places to buy a home is normal.

Mexicans however are still in "make 10 babies" mode of the 1950s, so the never ending Mexican immigration and births will make their numbers increase quickly in NYC. They are all about mutliplying...so if you have Mexicans living in your building, remember not to get them wet or feed them after midnight! =)

I wonder why the migration has shifted here instead of Los Angeles? Its closer, sure more family memebers there

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Old 05-11-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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Well like anything, Mexicans came in huge numbers lured by employment, especially construction, and restaurant industries. And they decided to stay, and more are coming as there are plenty of low wage jobs nobody wants to do in NYC, or can afford to live on unless you live the immigrant lifestyle of multiple generations/extended families in small apts.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Mexicans are line cooks, the aforementioned heavy construction laborers (rebuilding Melrose!) deliverymen, deli workers, housecleaners and gardeners for minimium wage or less. Usually they have atleast two families per housing unit. But in a time of widespread unemployment Mexicans are good at finding and keeping work, of NYC largest immigrant groups they have the highest rate of employment. They also have a great work ethic like the Chinese and send a good amount of the salary back home to Mexico, they really put their heads down and work. Flip side is that many Mexicans are illegal immigrants and don't report workplace abuses in fear of deportation thats why many employers see them as "convenient workers". Mexicans would be great and reliable tenants if they did not move in with half of Tijuana.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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Just because you work hard does not make you a great tenant. Plenty of people "work hard" and are still irresponsible/can't pay bills/loud/rude/offensive etc. The fact that they move in multiple people/families into small apts is my primary issue.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Just because you work hard does not make you a great tenant. Plenty of people "work hard" and are still irresponsible/can't pay bills/loud/rude/offensive etc. The fact that they move in multiple people/families into small apts is my primary issue.
Maybe not. But from personal experience when I've worked hard there really is no time for any undecency like playing music or a couple of friends over for a drink. In fact I had no time for any social life whatsoever. You come home from work, eat and maybe an hour or two on the computer and then you go to sleep. And the thing goes on an on. But I agree, paying bills might be cumbersome for many hard workers on mimimum wage out there.
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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This story in the Daily News gives some additional info:

Black population surges in East New York as it falls across the borough and city * - NY Daily News

Some points of note:

The black population increased by 13% in East New York from 2000 to 2010, according to a new analysis of census data by the Department of City Planning - absorbing many residents who were priced out of other neighborhoods as the borough’s black population fell by 6%.

In the western part of Bedford Stuyvesant, the white population shot up 634%, while blacks fell 14.6% - from 69% of the population to less than half. Northern Crown Heights lost more than 10,000 black residents, a 12% drop, while the white population grew 186%. Similar changes took place in Clinton Hill, Fort Greene, Prospect Heights, and Prospect Lefferts Gardens.

Some are considering following the thousands of black residents who left Brooklyn over the last ten years - a net migration of 121,597 people.

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Old 05-11-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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"The black population increased by 13% in East New York from 2000 to 2010....
This is a very strange statistic.Don't know what to make of it.What group left E NY in such a large number for the % of blacks to increase so dramatically ? I honestly didn't think there were more than a few white people there in the first place.Is it the Hispanic population that went down a lot ? If yes,that's as big a story as % of black increase.
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