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Old 05-11-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Jersey City, NJ
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This is a very strange statistic.Don't know what to make of it.What group left E NY in such a large number for the % of blacks to increase so dramatically ? I honestly didn't think there were more than a few white people there in the first place.Is it the Hispanic population that went down a lot ? If yes,that's as big a story as % of black increase.
The Hispanic population is stable or slightly dropping in most of ENY. But the main part of the change in ENY has been a boom in construction of low-income housing on former empty lots.

You are correct that the white population in ENY is no more than 1-2% in most census tracts and has been for a couple of decades.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Glendale, NY
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The Hispanic population is stable or slightly dropping in most of ENY. But the main part of the change in ENY has been a boom in construction of low-income housing on former empty lots.

You are correct that the white population in ENY is no more than 1-2% in most census tracts and has been for a couple of decades.
Starlett City is about 20-25% Non hispanic white. That actually surprised me, I though it was all black.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Jersey City, NJ
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Starlett City is about 20-25% Non hispanic white. That actually surprised me, I though it was all black.
True. It's also only just barely in ENY, if at all. It was mostly white back in the early 90s, just like Canarsie.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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True. It's also only just barely in ENY, if at all. It was mostly white back in the early 90s, just like Canarsie.
Sounds like Starret City and Co Op City,maybe the two biggest housing developments in the city,share a similar history.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Starlett City is about 20-25% Non hispanic white. That actually surprised me, I though it was all black.

My man Starrett City back in the day was close to 50% white and then hispanics were the second largest demographic... And i'm talking about 90s starrett city not even 70s and 80s version... The Black population has shot up in that area in recent years... Thati is probably another factor driving the black population increase... Overall ENY in 2000 which includes Cypress Hills and Starrett City was about 7% white 55% Black 32% Hispanic 6% asian... The majority of that white population was concentrated mainly in Starrett City and then the rest was spread around Cypress Hills...

What's driving the change now has to do with the fact that ENY wasn't really a dense area back then (there were a ton of empty lots)... Nowadays, all those lots are becoming either 3 family low-income housing or connected apartments that kinda look like 1-2 floor projects... And the majority of the people moving into these new buildings are black with some hispanics as well... In addition, while the white population in Starrett City is rapidly decreasing there are parts of Cypress Hills that have seen a slight increase in the white population due to its proximity to the J line... The overwhelming majority of the white folk that have moved into parts of Cypress Hills are simply working middle class folk who couldn't afford to rent or buy in other areas because of the dramatic increase in COL in this city but there are a select few (probably the same amount as Ocean Hill ) that look like hipsters... you can probably count them on your two hands and feet...

Haven't had a chance to take an in depth look at the 2010 demographics of East NY but going on the eye test i'd probably say it's somewhere around 67% Black 27% Hispanic 4% white 2% asian...

While I still think the hispanic population has increased slightly in East NY... the Black population increase has been that much more causing the spike in percentages
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/NYC
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I can imagine it's the same case with the South BX except it's reversed with the Hispanic population surging and the black population increasing at a milder rate.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Glendale, NY
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I can imagine it's the same case with the South BX except it's reversed with the Hispanic population surging and the black population increasing at a milder rate.
Blacks are decreasing in the South Bronx, but growing in the north.
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I can imagine it's the same case with the South BX except it's reversed with the Hispanic population surging and the black population increasing at a milder rate.
True, back in the day a lot of people spoke English except old time puerto ricans. Walk the streets of mott haven and you mostly hear Spanish being spoken from Dominicans and Mexicans who both moved out from upper Manhattan to the south Bronx.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/NYC
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Blacks are decreasing in the South Bronx, but growing in the north.
Really? Cause I look at a good number of tracts on the Census map and in places like Morrisania and Melrose, I see percentage increases. I'm assuming these are places where new homes were built on vacant lots like ENY, so it would make sense if there's an increase.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Really? Cause I look at a good number of tracts on the Census map and in places like Morrisania and Melrose, I see percentage increases. I'm assuming these are places where new homes were built on vacant lots like ENY, so it would make sense if there's an increase.
I have met many blacks who moved to the south Bronx from other parts of the city most notably harlem and brooklyn while current south bronx blacks moved on to other areas. I don't think the Bronx black population did not drop compared to Brooklyn and Manhattan from what I remember from the 2010 census data. In my area I see a huge increase in Mexicans and Dominicans, blacks mostly center around the projects and sprinkles of white transplants. Puerto rican population is on the decline in my area many of my friends moved to east Bronx or out of the county all together. Neigborhoods change for better or for worse, the only person that needs to worry about changing neigborhoods is your local Congressman and real estate brokers.
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