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Funny how true that is about Eldert! I have a friend who lives there and it's literally two buildings (a new one on one side and a renovated warehouse on the other). Other than that, the whole area is what a native NY'er expects.
Where around Eldert Lane (To Anon also) if I may ask ?
If the implication is that white people shouldn't be moving into a neighborhood that isn't primarily white, you're way off base. Change is only a matter of time, no matter where in the city you're talking about.
I am not suggesting that. Individuals who happen to be 'white' can relocate to where ever they want. I do not have any issues with that.
Where around Eldert Lane (To Anon also) if I may ask ?
It's on Eldert Lane and Irving ave. The lofts and the new what appear to be condominiums are across from eachother... The lofts aren't filled but there are a number of hipsters living there and on the other side, the condos are probably somewhere around 60% hispanic maybe 15-20% white 10-15% black 5-10% asian... Don't quote me on that, just going based on what I've seen...
It's on Eldert Lane and Irving ave. The lofts and the new what appear to be condominiums are across from eachother... The lofts aren't filled but there are a number of hipsters living there and on the other side, the condos are probably somewhere around 60% hispanic maybe 15-20% white 10-15% black 5-10% asian... Don't quote me on that, just going based on what I've seen...
Oh, you meant Eldert St in northeastern Bushwick. I was thinking about Eldert Lane in Cypress Hills - City Line area. Which would mark the border of Brooklyn and Queens around the area.
Oh, you meant Eldert St in Bushwick. I was thinking about Eldert Lane in Cypress Hills - City Line area. Which would mark the border of Brooklyn and Queens around the area.
Oh wow yeah... that's what I meant... As for the city line area, not so much... lol
Kinda dumb thread... First, hipsters are usually buncha white folks but I've met plenty of black, asian and latin hipsters...
Also best way to think of hipsters are that of Silver Surfer (marvel comic). Silver Surfer was/is a herald for Galactus which came to planets to announce Galactus is coming to eat your world. In our example, Hipsters are herald of Gentrification which is coming to devour your area as you know it!
Hipsters are folks who move out ahead of the real rich people (not the ones that pretend) to live in areas that rich people wouldn't normally want to live in. Once enough time passes and with enough hipsters living in certain area...that area becomes usually whiter because most hipsters are white. And people go woo white people = safe.
Which makes rich people feel safe enough to go 'Hey this area isn't all that bad. i can buy something here for lot of room' and those rich people start to migrate out to the area. This cycle continues till that area gets too expensive for hipsters which forces them move onto another area to spread out. To restart the wholeee thing.
Fyi. Typically only the areas with decent public mass transportation (bike or train) to city gets heralded by hipsters. Otherwise you are pretty safe. Look at Red Hook, that place got sh*t mass transportation so it's taking a very long time to get enough hipsters in there for real gentrification to happen.
And yes, whole thing I wrote is mostly in sarcasm but it is what it is and I'm sure after time passes... New class of herald will rise up. Like yuppies class from previous generations.
Anyway the bottom-line is that most hipsters can't afford to throw down large amount of money to buy up townhouses, nice corner units in apartments, and do a major reno. That's done by rich people who feels safe enough to live in an area that they would not have before. So while hipsters themselves signal possible gentrification, the real gentrification doesn't start till the money rolls in...i.e. people with lot of money who can buy shiet up, fix it up nice. And when enough of those rich people are here. Stores catering to their needs pop-up. Till then relax...
Anon the real victims of anything in NYC are not hipsters, regardless of the neighborhood they live in, it is people of color regardless of the neighborhood they live in. Hipsters are not the ones getting murdered in the street, they are not the ones getting raped and beaten in Bushwick, Harlem, Mott Haven, BedStuy, or anywhere else...it is people of color.
So while you claim the $4,500 a month apt "comes with rapes, beatings, muggings etc", what you fail to realize is that their neighbor who is on section 8 and black is the one who should be worried, not them. And you know why.
They are living places they can afford, or think is cool, or close to the city, or for whatever reason they want...because YOU DONT NEED A REASON OR JUSTIFY ANYTHING TO YOU OR ANYONE. They can live in the city for 1 day or 40 years, pay $8,000 a month for a studio apt in East NY and IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, and they have just as much right to do whatever they want as you do. Why do you waste your time criticizing them? Look around your community....spend more time helping the brown and black folks killing eachother, and less time complaining about the Hipster getting off the train who lives with 3 of his friends.
Geez.
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