Great NY Post Article on how Giuliani cleaned-up NYC and his approach (price, vs.)

[scatman]

Originally Posted by hilltopjay

Rudy was right. Al Sharpton is radical. Still til this day.

But was it a correct move to lump all Black leaders as being like Sharpton?

[nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by nykiddo718718

Cry baby. I hardly notice the noise when you factor in everthing else, indoors, not an issue at all.

well, I have gone to all these parks and the noise is annoying. try going to govenors island and have 7 choppers flying allaround.

it is annoying and un necessary

[nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by Arxis28

This is not even true. I'm sure you can't find a source that references the ban on helicopters in New York. The inaccuracies and half-truths posted on this site are despicable.

And how can there be no air traffic in New York City when there are 2 airports within it. Nonsensical.

when guiliani was in ofice they were banned, bloomie re instated it, our congress woman Nydia, something, wrote a whole letter to Bloomie, Mr Squadron also. This is all documented on the net

there was even a rally called stop the chop, it was all over the net, a lot of people do not like to hear helicopters flying all day long, it is annoying

airports are for airplanes, not tourist helicopters.

even lower manhattan residents are complaining about it

[pietrang]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

As for Giuliani, I will agree that concentrating on the smaller, quality of life issues paid huge dividends. Instituting the police state and holding communities hostage was not the answer...and it simply turned communities against the police, moreso than they already were.

As has been noted, crime rates were falling everywhere, and who ever was in office was reaping the glory, regardless of their policies (or lackthereof). Giuliani came in at the right time, however the QOL issues made a big difference.

I agree with SoBro. While the QOL initiaves made the city feel less threatening, the reason the police were able to concentrate on these was the overall decrease in other crimes which resulted mostly from the improved economy which history attributes to NATIONAL policies which were enacted by a DEMOCRATIC president who worked with a Congress that was willing to solve the nation's problems. Giuliani was nothing but a divisive loudmouth who benefited from the work of others. Everyone knows that now and it is evidenced by his inablility to achieve any higher office beyond mayor.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by hilltopjay

Really nice article in the Post yesterday on how Giuliani (Republican) cleaned up NYC by going after small crimes such as graffiti, litter, squeegee guys harassing you for money, keeping neighborhoods clean, etc. to increase quality of life in the City. I'm deeply afraid that the next Mayor (most likely a bleeding heart, left-winged liberal democrat) will UNDO all that was gained in the Giuliani/Bloomberg era. Below is the link.

James Q. Wilson & New York—Rudolph W. Giuliani - NYPOST.com

Your problem--and it's fairly sad that this even has to be pointed out to you--is that you're using an article from the Post. Since Rupert Murdoch has been the owner of that paper, concepts such as fairness and journalistic integrity have been deleted from the equation. It's a hardcore, Republican butt-kissing rag that has more in common with supermarket tabloids than a newspaper.

The Post would like to see Giuliani inaugurated as our next President--and is hardly likely to criticize him in any way. Next time you feel the urge to present information, please quote from a legitimate source. (It'll also help your credibility!)

[hilltopjay]

Originally Posted by Fred314X

Your problem--and it's fairly sad that this even has to be pointed out to you--is that you're using an article from the Post. Since Rupert Murdoch has been the owner of that paper, concepts such as fairness and journalistic integrity have been deleted from the equation. It's a hardcore, Republican butt-kissing rag that has more in common with supermarket tabloids than a newspaper.

Haaaaa...so what do you recommend as a "non-bias" newspaper? The Daily News or the NY Times? Talk about bias newspapers, they are soooooo left-winged, liberal and democrat friendly with the labor unions in their pockets that I want to throw up every time I read a political story. They do serve well in picking up dog poop though. I give them that much. LOL

[urbanlife78]

Originally Posted by hilltopjay

Haaaaa...so what do you recommend as a "non-bias" newspaper? The Daily News or the NY Times? Talk about bias newspapers, they are soooooo left-winged, liberal and democrat friendly with the labor unions in their pockets that I want to throw up every time I read a political story. They do serve well in picking up dog poop though. I give them that much. LOL

So there you have it ladies and gentlemen, no nyc paper is worth posting in here cause they are all clearly bias and are only delivering half truths. Maybe it is time for you to begin reading something else...unless you are fine with reading a paper that clearly panders to you and makes you feel right.

[bigjake54]

Originally Posted by 11KAP

the next mayor should be one to go after whites
like guiliani/bloomberg did blacks; give you cowards
something really worth being deeply afraid about.

No one goes after blacks, like other blacks, dummy!
At the peak of the crime wave, >90% of NYC's murder victims were minorities, killed by other minorities. The same percentage today! Only then, it was 2,000 of 2,200, now it's 450 of 500. So, 1,700 fewer murder victims in NYC each year, 1,500 of whom are minorities! I credit the NYPD's anti-crime initiatives, for saving many of those lives. Fools like you won't acknowledge and can't handle the truth.
Why don't you try to do something to stop black-on-black violence, instead of whining about others? In NYC, the white murder rate is 1 per 100,000; the black rate is 15 per 100,000!

[pietrang]

Originally Posted by hilltopjay

Haaaaa...so what do you recommend as a "non-bias" newspaper? The Daily News or the NY Times? Talk about bias newspapers, they are soooooo left-winged, liberal and democrat friendly with the labor unions in their pockets that I want to throw up every time I read a political story. They do serve well in picking up dog poop though. I give them that much. LOL

Hilltop, I've been reading your posts and trying to understand why you post what you do. If you rely on the NY Post for your political news, you are severly limiting your horizons. The NY Times vs. The Post? Really? I agree that the Times has a liberal bias but that is usually reserved for the editorials.

Do you listen to what Giuliani says today? He just endorsed Romney erasing all of the criticism he had just months ago.

[hilltopjay]

Originally Posted by bigjake54

No one goes after blacks, like other blacks, dummy!
At the peak of the crime wave, >90% of NYC's murder victims were minorities, killed by other minorities. The same percentage today! Only then, it was 2,000 of 2,200, now it's 450 of 500. So, 1,700 fewer murder victims in NYC each year, 1,500 of whom are minorities! I credit the NYPD's anti-crime initiatives, for saving many of those lives. Fools like you won't acknowledge and can't handle the truth.
Why don't you try to do something to stop black-on-black violence, instead of whining about others? In NYC, the white murder rate is 1 per 100,000; the black rate is 15 per 100,000!

Amen!