Anyone here know NY Gun laws? (Nassau, Florida: section 8, apartment, crime rate)

[apvbguy]

considering the fact that most of the cities with tough gun control laws are also the most dangerous, I'd say that gun control isn't doing a good job.
If the bad guys know that john q public is unarmed they are free to try and do anything. In Fla where anyone with a clean background can carry a weapon, those bad guys run he risk of being shot themselves, and it happens a lot. unfortunatley crimminals are fairly stupid because the fact that many people do carry guns in FL, there is still a lot of gun crimes.
Nonetheless places like NY, NJ, DC, Pa,that have strict gun control also have bad crime rates, and places with more open gun laws crime outside of inner city ghettos is almost nil

[Elvira Black]

But are they dangerous because they have gun control, or do they have gun control because they are dangerous?

I heard that some parts of Fla. are very high crime. So the theories can go either way.

I can understand wanting to protect your family and property, but NYC is just too dense IMO for everyone to be packing a pistol. And if you do, you can be looking at jail time, self defense or no.

Again, the poster who noted that most NYPD have never had to fire their gun seems to bolster this argument.

[jflores]

yes guns are dangerous but they are much more dangerous in the hands of criminals as opposed to law abiding citizens. Do you know the extensive procedures one has to go through to get a gun, they have to call the feds for a background check, like I said before if the feds find me competent that I can get a gun then no one out there should have a problem with it.

[cityskape]

Originally Posted by The 4th Survivor

yea 3 years sounds a bit ridiculous for having a gun in your home without a licence, I mean I bought the guns legally in Philly so I dont see why I cant have them here in NY...

because ny state in general has some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

They dont want normal citizens owning hand guns.

Also you cannot just shoot someone in NY state even if it is self defense. You must be able to prove you have done EVERYTHING in your power to rid yourself of the dangerous situation before you can escalate the situation by defending yourself with a gun. My understanding is even if you are being robbed at gun point you must first try to run away before you could shoot someone and have it hold up in court as self defense.... This would assume you could get a carry permit which is next to impossible anyway. Its not just the 5 boroughs either. It is very tough to get a carry permit upstate too.

[The 4th Survivor]

well all I know is if someone breaks into my house I will kill them and do whatever I have to do to get rid of the body....I would play by the rules if there actually was any rules. They expect you to bend over when someone breaks in to your place at 3am. I dont think im down with that I preffer to cover my ass and break whatever laws I have to in the process

[009]

Good luck. You'll go from covering your ass to literally covering your ass once they send you upstate if that happens.

[Elvira Black]

LOL, 009. What is it about guys (at the expense of sounding sexist) that makes them lose all perspective and common sense when it comes to guns? Is it all those Westerns and movies and TV shows where everyone is shooting each other all the time, as common as a handshake?

For heaven's sake, the joint is no joke. Talk about self defense...talk about having to deal with criminals assaulting you...

Invest in good locks and a window gate if you need it, or heck even a full fledged alarm system if that makes you feel safer--or a doorman building if you can afford it. That's my opinion on the manner. Welcome to NYC--there's a lot to gripe about, a lot that seems "unfair" to the average citizen. Lots of compromises to be made for the common good and otherwise.

[Elvira Black]

Originally Posted by The 4th Survivor

well all I know is if someone breaks into my house I will kill them and do whatever I have to do to get rid of the body....I would play by the rules if there actually was any rules. They expect you to bend over when someone breaks in to your place at 3am. I dont think im down with that I preffer to cover my ass and break whatever laws I have to in the process

Speaking of paranoia and common sense--personally I would not give this kind of personal information over the internet. Believe it or not, there are ways for the "authorities" to trace your IP address, and you might even find yourself in hot water just for admitting these things online. Again, no joke. Read the terms of service for most sites--most state that they may have to reveal identities of posters if they are under investigation. Two words--Patriot Act!

[jflores]

Originally Posted by Elvira Black

LOL, 009. What is it about guys (at the expense of sounding sexist) that makes them lose all perspective and common sense when it comes to guns? Is it all those Westerns and movies and TV shows where everyone is shooting each other all the time, as common as a handshake?

For heaven's sake, the joint is no joke. Talk about self defense...talk about having to deal with criminals assaulting you...

Invest in good locks and a window gate if you need it, or heck even a full fledged alarm system if that makes you feel safer--or a doorman building if you can afford it. That's my opinion on the manner. Welcome to NYC--there's a lot to gripe about, a lot that seems "unfair" to the average citizen. Lots of compromises to be made for the common good and otherwise.

Were you born and raised in NYC...if you were, what area did you grow up in?

[Elvira Black]

Glen Oaks, Queens til I was fifteen, then Manhattan for a long time, and now the Bronx.

And you? (though you may have mentioned it).

Any particular reason you're askin'?