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Old 06-13-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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Affordable housing opportunities ? Rent stabilized buildings ? These exist, and they are not in the short supply some would have you believe.
I've looked into non-NYCHA "affordable housing" and many them have minimum income requirements higher than what working people who really need it make. By rent stabilized I think you mean the type of building I'm living in now, where they're only allowed to raise the rent up to a certain amount each year... but still faster than many people's income increases?
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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Again if they are working and they move into public housing, keep working and have money left over, what exactly should they be "allowed" to spend that money on?
They should save to move out ! That's the point. You keep missing it.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:48 PM
 
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They should save to move out ! That's the point. You keep missing it.
There's SOME merit to that but realistically, it's hard for many people to get a well paying enough job where they'll be able to move out and live decently paying market rent.

Now I suppose if you mean for them to move into alternative affordable housing, I could get behind that if only those didn't have such high income requirements.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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Exactly, he just doesn't get it. This is why I wish a 5 year max would be put in place for housing programs. You got 5 years to pay almost nothing for rent and get your life together, clock is ticking, GO! Instead people's goals are to move into it and stay their for life.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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Exactly, he just doesn't get it. This is why I wish a 5 year max would be put in place for housing programs. You got 5 years to pay almost nothing for rent and get your life together, clock is ticking, GO! Instead people's goals are to move into it and stay their for life.
It would help if the housing market actually had affordable options for all working people.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I agree, most of my income goes to rent myself but it is what it is. It's not going to change. I choose to reside in NYC so therefore I'm choosing to pay what I pay in a sense. I could move to almost any other city and pay less.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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It's not going to change.
So you accept the faults of the housing market but blame those who struggle the most because of it?

There aren't many places you can feasibly move if you don't drive (although you could learn, true, but then again cars and auto insurance cost money too), and if you have a job in NYC it's not exactly wise to move somewhere where you aren't guaranteed to find a job anytime soon.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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You can get an apt, car, insurance, gas, all of that in another city for much less then what some people (including myself) pay for rent. And if you are only make min wage, you can find another min wage job in another city.

And I ever said, I accept the faults of the housing market but blame those who struggle the most because of it....

Do I like it that I may very well be priced outta my city, no. But No one is entitled to live in the city...
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:06 PM
 
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Personally I just hate using the capitalist system for necessities. Socialism for necessities, capitalism for luxuries... that's the way to go.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:11 PM
 
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Anyway it's been nice debating but I must go to bed since tomorrow I have two jobs to work....
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