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As someone who's been to DR, I could definitely see a sense of pride in the culture there. It's very bright and happy. Same with a lot of Latin American countries.
I'm proud to be an American because I like our culture and history, brief as it may be. The person I replied seemed to look down on DR because it's poor and a relatively new country. I don't think we should go there blasting the downsides of being proud to be from certain nations, because a lot of Europeans countries have a pretty grim history, no matter how long and interesting it may be.
Because at the end of the day, it's a value judgment. Some value history, some value "new", others value simply being born in a place (although for me, that is difficult to fathom. Why anyone would be proud of the fact that their parents decided the location).
If I had achieved scientific or other tangible success, then I'd be proud, especially if it was through my own merits.
Because at the end of the day, it's a value judgment. Some value history, some value "new", others value simply being born in a place (although for me, that is difficult to fathom. Why anyone would be proud of the fact that their parents decided the location).
If I had achieved scientific or other tangible success, then I'd be proud, especially if it was through my own merits.
Absolutely, but having a sense of pride of where you or your parents come from don't seem to be an issue anywhere else aside from city-data and the rest of the internet. Personally, I don't care. I'm well achieved, but I do share a sense of pride that I'm from the Bronx because I find our way of life exciting and a bit of a nice gesture to pass along in relative conversation.
Because at the end of the day, it's a value judgment. Some value history, some value "new", others value simply being born in a place (although for me, that is difficult to fathom. Why anyone would be proud of the fact that their parents decided the location).
If I had achieved scientific or other tangible success, then I'd be proud, especially if it was through my own merits.
Usually people who think like you are often ashamed of their upbringings. Therefore placing pride solely on individual accomplishment to "distance" themselves from what they cannot avoid. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or where you're from, or where you live.
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Usually people who think like you are often ashamed of their upbringings. Therefore placing pride solely on individual accomplishment to "distance" themselves from what they cannot avoid. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or where you're from, or where you live.
Oh, there's nothing "immoral" in the "wrong" sense. I am not speaking of morals and cannot do that. It simply just doesn't make sense to me why anyone would be so "proud" of something given to us by nothing else other than chance.
Yes, there are cases of people taking the opposite extreme - being ashamed of their upbringings.
I'm just "indifferent" to the matter. I can be proud of where I live because that's something I have chosen.
I'll never get all the flag waving and "ethnic pride" stuff.
Absolutely, but having a sense of pride of where you or your parents come from don't seem to be an issue anywhere else aside from city-data and the rest of the internet. Personally, I don't care. I'm well achieved, but I do share a sense of pride that I'm from the Bronx because I find our way of life exciting and a bit of a nice gesture to pass along in relative conversation.
This is true but I think (just a guess) that "ordinary" conversations in real life tend not to address these things too much in depth.
PS: I was in the Bronx today for a little exploring. An intense place, I'll say that much (East Tremont area).
Oh, there's nothing "immoral" in the "wrong" sense. I am not speaking of morals and cannot do that. It simply just doesn't make sense to me why anyone would be so "proud" of something given to us by nothing else other than chance.
Yes, there are cases of people taking the opposite extreme - being ashamed of their upbringings.
I'm just "indifferent" to the matter. I can be proud of where I live because that's something I have chosen.
I'll never get all the flag waving and "ethnic pride" stuff.
Are you proud to be a member of your family?
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Nope. And I also don't think that just because someone is related by blood to me, that they deserve "more love" than others. Love has to be earned, in my view of things.
So what? That's my point - who cares about something none of us achieved? We never chose to be born where we were born. So how can we be proud of that? And on top of that, if your country hasn't achieved anything important or worthwhile, especially recently, then there is even less of a reason to feel any "pride". At least Europe has lots and lots and lots of history. DR? Not much.
The DR has lots and lots of history as well. It's a racist to imply only the history of whites is history and that only whites should be proud of their nations.
Besides, I doubt the OP cares much about what you think anyway. If he feels inclined to help other Dominicans, he will.
Nope. And I also don't think that just because someone is related by blood to me, that they deserve "more love" than others. Love has to be earned, in my view of things.
Then you're very off from society/normal people. The vast majority of people would say that their children are owned more care and concern than the children of others. The vast majority of people would make sure that the needs of their elderly relatives are met before worrying about elderly strangers.
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