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Your hopeless. All your providing is raw numbers. I see you don't understand what the MIDDLE is either.
Again...
Young professionals TEMPORAILY making middle incomes are growing in NYC.
HOWEVER...
These people are NOT the middle class, these people will peak at much higher income then the average... 125k+ for most. Then they will be considered wealthy.
NOW...
The true middle class, those people who peak out around the city's median income are LEAVING.
At 45k per year, how can you afford to buy a multifamily home in a decent area and up at $800,000 to 1 million dollars+? How can yu
The middle class again is LEAVING becuase:
-Failing schools, many middle class people go on to start families.
-High housing cost, as stated above. You can find cheaper housing elseware in better areas.
-Housing not sutable for a family (No yard or very small, not enough rooms, apartments, ect). You can find better housing elseware.
-Inner city issues (these people will leave for the burbs).
WHY is that so difficult for you to understand. I know you want NYC to look PERFECT but it's not. This is a SERIOUS problem.
^ You are talking about the working class, which sometimes is called the lower middle class. But the real NYC middle Class is alive and well. Looking at those numbers.
^ You are talking about the working class, which sometimes is called the lower middle class. But the real NYC middle Class is alive and well. Looking at those numbers.
Hmm.. I wonder how many people in this city trying to get by on $50-100K would agree with that statement.
Those numbers don't prove anything. You can't adequately define the middle class by assigning arbitrary income brackets.
I came across an article entitled "Saving New York's Middle Class":
I particularly liked this excerpt from Mario Cuomo because it pertains directly to the discussion in this thread.
But middle class is still difficult to define.
Some people go to numbers. Lou Dobbs uses income numbers -- $26,000 to $150,000 is middle class to Lou Dobbs. But numbers depend on where you are and what other circumstances surround you when you are there.
Fifty thousand dollars and a lot of overtime in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, may be pretty good income. But if you're a single parent with two school-age children looking for an apartment in Manhattan, the definition is dramatically different. Now in the 1950s, '60s, and '70s, you could have a one-earner family, as we did, with a spouse who stayed home and raised five kids in a Cape-Cod house in a safe neighborhood in Queens with good public schools and convenient emergency rooms that were free with a new car every two years a $30,000-a-year income. In those years, you could expect to earn more than your father did because the labor unions and the economy saw to that. The mobility was upward.
Given all the variances of the middle class, I've decided to stay with my own definition. It's closer to Aristotle's than anyone else's. Here it is: The middle class is made up of people who aren't rich enough to be virtually free of economic concern, nor poor enough to warrant any subsistence payment from the government or from charity. They are people who work for a living because they have to, not because some psychiatrist told them it's a good way to fill the grim interval between birth and eternity.
I am talking about people who make below $50,000. They are what you call the working class.
Who are you to define the working class? The working class are the people that hold blue collar jobs...
The middle class are those who have yearly income around the national average... THE MIDDLE.
In NYC, the middle class is LEAVING. They cannot afford to live in NYC. Ever heard the term the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer?
In NYC, the middle class is LEAVING. They cannot afford to live in NYC. Ever heard the term the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer?
People who are making between 50,000 and 100,000 in NYC are not what you call the rich. They are not leaving the city. Oh and the poor.
People who are making between 50,000 and 100,000 in NYC are not what you call the rich. They are not leaving the city. The working class, or the lower middle class are.
You just don't get it...
Here, there are a ton of sources inside this link. A simple google search...
According to you, the middle class in NYC is growing. Yet every ethnic group minus Hispanics and Asians is seeing a negative net growth. The population of NYC is currently being fueled by low income immigrants, wealthy, and young professionals that will end up making "wealthy" incomes, NOT THE MIDDLE CLASS!
Please tell me why the middle class would move to a city where:
-A middle income salary will not get you a home even in a crap area.
-Where the schools are among the worst in the USA.
-Where the housing is mostly apartments, even in the new "houses" where are really small buildings. The real houses are unaffordable to the middle class.
-Where urban issues run rampid, from segregation to violence.
-Where living cost are already too high, middle income cannot keep up. Especially those with families.
But no, according to you the middle class is not leaving NYC...
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Looking at those numbers.
