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Old 07-12-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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As you read from my comment above, Asians and Blacks can never be white, because they are not caucasians. You must be caucasian to be white, but just because you are caucasian does not mean you are white. Hispanics are majority caucasian (depending on population), so some can be white (using the broadened standard of course). Those that visually appear indigenous (like Mexicans) or Black (like Dominicans) are still not invited and will never be as they are not caucasian.

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Old 07-12-2012, 09:59 AM
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As you read from my comment above, Asians and Blacks can never be white, because they are not caucasians. You must be caucasian to be white, but just because you are caucasian does not mean you are white. Hispanics are majority caucasian (depending on population), so some can be white (using the broadened standard of course).
But asians are effecting a slow move to positions of household wealth and power, whereas other minorities are not. I understood your term white to mainly be a protean term that absorbs non-WASP groups in order to keep some specified majority in population and power.

I suppose a new term will come into play.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:01 AM
 
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I actually think they get it but this is part of the denial of racism that many whites engage in. You being a victim of racism, despite being white. You are being punished for perpetrating a non white persona which in their eyes diminishes the prestige value of "whiteness". Note how they equate black and hispanic culture with low life behavior so assume that you must also be portraying such styles.

Here's what's hilarious. The OP has posted a perception of supposedly being treated unfairly by "white people" who he perceives feel he has "black" behavior, which he attributes to his being at certain times in the company of "black" people.

So HIS PERCEPTION is that he "acts black" -- which is actually symptomatic of HIS OWN STEREOTYPES of what "black behavior" is!!!

Hilarious, right? He is saying that OTHER PEOPLE who he perceives as white, perceive him as in some way "black" and therefore, what, treat him as an inferior, at least in his mind.

Who can even follow this pretzel logic?

And then there are the agree-ers, such as above. It is caribny's notion that "they equate" black and hispanic culture with low life behavior, this great population of "they" that everybody should be paranoid about, because "they" might control the universe.

Seriously, get a grip.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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BG7, all the money in the world does not make Michael Jackson white, and neither will it make Asians white. That was never a prerequisite, although if you are borderline using today's standard (like J-Lo), all that fame/money/power sure helps!
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:06 AM
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BG7, all the money in the world does not make Michael Jackson white, and neither will it make Asians white. That was never a prerequisite, although if you are borderline using today's standard (like J-Lo), all that fame/money/power sure helps!

Its true, Asian-americans are the new White+. Better educated, higher personal income, higher household wealth.

Anyone else achieving superlevels is an a-racial 1%er.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:08 AM
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Here's what's hilarious. The OP has posted a perception of supposedly being treated unfairly by "white people" who he perceives feel he has "black" behavior, which he attributes to his being at certain times in the company of "black" people.

So HIS PERCEPTION is that he "acts black" -- which is actually symptomatic of HIS OWN STEREOTYPES of what "black behavior" is!!!

Hilarious, right? He is saying that OTHER PEOPLE who he perceives as white, perceive him as in some way "black" and therefore, what, treat him as an inferior, at least in his mind.

Who can even follow this pretzel logic?

And then there are the agree-ers, such as above. It is caribny's notion that "they equate" black and hispanic culture with low life behavior, this great population of "they" that everybody should be paranoid about, because "they" might control the universe.

Seriously, get a grip.
They do - didn't you see SoBro's story about the definition of White changing being changed by They in order for White to stay in a majority population?
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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BG7: It is not according to my criteria, it is according to history.

Likeminas: Yes all those populations are white also, and have always originally been white for the reasons you stated.

As successive waves of nonwhites flooded into NYC (and America overall), what does the white population do to maintain power? Have them join the club (to some extent)! So the white population has invited the Irish, Italians, Jews, Greeks, Slavs/Eastern Europeans to the party, and now those groups are pretty much taking off the hinges and allowing select Hispanics in. Welcome to (some) PRs! Just like a gang, unless you keep recruiting you will lose power.

As for NYC, the reality is it has not been very "white" for probably 70+ years, but that doesn't go over well so all of the above populations are white now. It is entertaining to enlighten Italians and Greeks that they are in fact not white..boy do they get angry! Jews at least will reluctantly acknowledge it.
That's interesting because Swedes and Norwegians while beings decedents of Germanic tribes too, were not Anglos or Saxons as your criteria dictates.
Perhaps you should expand it to include all European peoples of Germanic descent.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:12 AM
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That's interesting because Swedes and Norwegians while beings decedents of Germanic tribes too, were not Anglos or Saxons as your criteria dictates.
Perhaps you should expand it to include all European peoples of Germanic descent.
as long as they aren't German catholics.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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as long as they aren't German catholics.
True!

His definition excludes those as non-whites! LOL
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:25 AM
 
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Huh?
here u go a more articulate explanation.
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