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Old 07-31-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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What my boy Obama do to get bought up in this lol..damn..wasnt it Mr Bush who tapped into our...oh nevermind..lol
My GOD. Thou shalt not speak of the Holy One. Obama is a socialist. He is the Presidental Michael Moore. He wears a baseball hat and tries to speak like he is one of us, while he goes on vacation and eats lavish meals. Even though Romney is a very rich man, he took a company and made it profitable, Obama has taken a country, and made it even more poor.

Just because we think Obama sucks doesn't mean we immediately believe Bush was the answer. I think they are both terrible Presidents. They both took away our freedoms. We deserve so much better then what we get. Obama loves racial tension, plays right into his agenda. He loves to control control control.

Obama can rip on Bain Capital all day long, but he received money for his campaign by people that were FAR more interactive in Bain then Romney towards the end of his tenure there. I know we all pay 40k a plate just to see him. He's just such a poor, downtrodden man that Obama.

Obama grew up with radicals and marxists, it's not a stretch to believe he isn't trying to take away our freedoms. He doesn't support the Constitution nor the means that the President is restricted to. He doesn't understand business because he has never run one. That's like taking me and sticking me in as a CEO of a massive corporation. I can act like I know what I'm doing, but I don't have the background or the skill set to really be successful.

“if you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Someone else made it happen.”
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Some wonder if Bloomberg is eyeing alcohol as next thing to regulate | SILive.com


That's it folks, Bloombergs hencemen are at it again. We have no one to blame for this but ourselves. Once we allowed him to get away with the smoking ban we gave up all of our freedom & rights. It won't stop here either.

Next will be a bar curfew, than an actual curfew until we live in a miltary state & have to show our papers & be questioned why we are out & where we are going at certain times of day & night.

Between Bloomberg & Obama taking away our freedom, our rights, our money & giving the borders away the United States of America will be a thing of the past.
Alcohol is state regulated.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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My GOD. Thou shalt not speak of the Holy One. Obama is a socialist. He is the Presidental Michael Moore. He wears a baseball hat and tries to speak like he is one of us, while he goes on vacation and eats lavish meals. Even though Romney is a very rich man, he took a company and made it profitable, Obama has taken a country, and made it even more poor.

Just because we think Obama sucks doesn't mean we immediately believe Bush was the answer. I think they are both terrible Presidents. They both took away our freedoms. We deserve so much better then what we get. Obama loves racial tension, plays right into his agenda. He loves to control control control.

Obama can rip on Bain Capital all day long, but he received money for his campaign by people that were FAR more interactive in Bain then Romney towards the end of his tenure there. I know we all pay 40k a plate just to see him. He's just such a poor, downtrodden man that Obama.

Obama grew up with radicals and marxists, it's not a stretch to believe he isn't trying to take away our freedoms. He doesn't support the Constitution nor the means that the President is restricted to. He doesn't understand business because he has never run one. That's like taking me and sticking me in as a CEO of a massive corporation. I can act like I know what I'm doing, but I don't have the background or the skill set to really be successful.

“if you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Someone else made it happen.”
smh, please turn off the Fox, next you will be telling me Obama wasn't born in America....which was funny because when running against McCain, one of those two weren't born in America, and it was McCain, he was born on a military base in another country, which technically means he couldn't be president because of that, but they would of simply added that to the law (which really it should be.)


What makes Romney a better candidate? Because he isn't Obama? Yeah, we Democrats tried that strategy too and ended up with four more years of Bush. How about not giving us a guy who made all his money by laying off American workers and hiding his money in off shore accounts. I have no interest in electing a CEO as president, what's Romney going to do to fix the economy, lay off more Americans?
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Skill...I am sorry to say that you have been swallowed up by Fox "News" and similar right wing crazies. You forgot to add that he was born in Kenya and does not have a birth certificate, he is a muslim, he hates America, he hates success, he caused the global meltdown, and of course, he hates white people! Did I miss any other of Hannity's and Glenn Beck's (grossly wrong) talking points?

Reality will never reach people like you, but here's to hoping *most* people are reasonable and rationale to not buy into the outright lies and misperceptions by a small but powerful few.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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My GOD. Thou shalt not speak of the Holy One. Obama is a socialist. He is the Presidental Michael Moore. He wears a baseball hat and tries to speak like he is one of us, while he goes on vacation and eats lavish meals. Even though Romney is a very rich man, he took a company and made it profitable, Obama has taken a country, and made it even more poor.

Just because we think Obama sucks doesn't mean we immediately believe Bush was the answer. I think they are both terrible Presidents. They both took away our freedoms. We deserve so much better then what we get. Obama loves racial tension, plays right into his agenda. He loves to control control control.

Obama can rip on Bain Capital all day long, but he received money for his campaign by people that were FAR more interactive in Bain then Romney towards the end of his tenure there. I know we all pay 40k a plate just to see him. He's just such a poor, downtrodden man that Obama.

Obama grew up with radicals and marxists, it's not a stretch to believe he isn't trying to take away our freedoms. He doesn't support the Constitution nor the means that the President is restricted to. He doesn't understand business because he has never run one. That's like taking me and sticking me in as a CEO of a massive corporation. I can act like I know what I'm doing, but I don't have the background or the skill set to really be successful.

“if you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Someone else made it happen.”

MY NAME IS RUSH LIMBAUGH AND I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE

HAHAHAHAHA

WOW...really...um yeah...lol

And your, as well as every other righty's "god,"......yeah you know the actor....had such an impressive resume of running corporations when he was elected in 1980. I know about the accident that was California, but if thats the case are you voting for Jesse Ventura if he runs? I loved him in the WWF
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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^ you missed Obamacare set up death panels, he's responsable for gas prices, and that he goes around the world apologizing for America.




It's beyond preposterous, bordering stupidity, that people think Obama is a socialist.
Do they not know the definition of socialism?

This apparent nemesis of capitalism, that system America holds dear--was based on Karl Marx's ideology that the society's wealth should not be concentrated in the hands of a few but more evenly distributed among the masses.

Has President Obama taken over wealth of the one-percenters and distributed it among the poor masses? The last time I checked the Bush-era tax break for the super-wealthy was still in place a decade after it was implemented. In fact, President Obama signed another two-year extension under his watch.
Has there been any takeover of the private sector by the government? The Troubled Assets Relief Program.(TARP) where billions, maybe even venturing into the Trillion dollar zone, were given to banks and Wall Street to bail them out of the deep financial hole they had dug for themselves because of risky practices--didn't have any strings attached.
The borderline fraudulent practices by some in the financial sector didn't result in CEOs fired or prosecuted. The financial tsunami that crashed in the U.S. and rippled across the globe in 2007-8, did not immediately cause stringent reform to be slapped on the offending intstitution or see government padlocks on doors of top execs while federal auditors took over. The too-big-to-fail banks weren't commandeered and broken up inot smaller, more manageable Co-ops, controlled by the people or government. Does that look like socialism to you?

Obama is at best a center-right president. Not even close to being a left-wing president, let alone a socialist one.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Harlem World
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Every righty is waiting for Ronald Regan to walk through the electoral door. You guys remind me of Rick Pitino when he coached the celtics...

"Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert Parish is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they're going to be gray and old. ... And as soon as they realize that those three guys are not coming through the door, the better this town will be for all of us. ... All this negativity that's in this town sucks


Basically, Its not happening...we will not experience what we did in the 1980s, It had more to do with timing then with policies. Regan was in the right place at the right time. Mitt is not the next coming of the 1980s. And Obama is not going to time machine us back to October 29, 1929.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Well said likeminas...unfortunately, that doesn't do much for ratings at Fox News. Screw wanting the 80s back..I don't think the 80s were very good at all. Give me the 90s any day! Best music, best economy, most REAL wealth generation!
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Well said likeminas...unfortunately, that doesn't do much for ratings at Fox News. Screw wanting the 80s back..I don't think the 80s were very good at all. Give me the 90s any day! Best music, best economy, most REAL wealth generation!

SHHHHH dont tell the elephants that.....Clinton was evil and got hummers by interns while the country went to hell ...lol
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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SHHHHH dont tell the elephants that.....Clinton was evil and got hummers by interns while the country went to hell ...lol
Reagan did nothing while Clinton was a genius? Republicans fought tooth and nail for the reforms. Newt Gingrich is the one we can credit for pulling together Congress and forcing them to get the debt under control. Clinton fought him on every measure, and then finally gave in. Clinton then took credit for elimating the debt. He attacked a country because he wanted to push the Lewinsky issues out of the headlines. Clinton was one of the luckiest Presidents of all time. Dot com boom, housing market bubble. It was beginning to falter when he left office.

It's funny that everyone claims I'm some Fox News lover. I rarely if ever watch television news. I don't need the 24 hour a day nonsense they spew on there.

This is the statements of the Party of European Socialists, let's see how many line up with Obama:

PES: The welfare state and state-provided universal access to education and health care are society’s great achievements.

Obama: Favors universal access to health care and associated benefits as a critical expansion of the welfare state.

PES: A strong and just society must ensure that the wealth generated by all is shared fairly as determined by the state.

Obama: Favors progressive taxes on the rich to redistribute income and wealth from winners to losers and to ensure that all pay their fair share. (As he has said: “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”)

PES: Collective responsibility makes society stronger when people work together, and all people are enabled to live a dignified life, free of poverty and protected from social risks in life.

Obama: Favors collective responsibility (as defined by the federal government) to protect all from social risks through food stamps, welfare programs, extended unemployment benefits, guaranteed health care, the bailing out of big companies, forcing renegotiation of mortgages, class action law suits, and other measures. (Instead of opportunity and incentive to succeed, no one is allowed to fail).

PES: The state must insure that economic growth is environmentally “sustainable.”

Obama: Favors carbon taxes, higher energy prices, restricted drilling and refining, and subsidies of green technology for the “common good,” even at the expenses of higher conventional growth and jobs.

PES: If unfettered by state control, market forces, driven by and greed and shift power to the privileged few, deepen economic, geographic and social inequalities, and create economic crises.

Obama: Shows a distrust of market forces and advocates selective regulation, subsidies, and taxation to persuade or coerce business to promote the general welfare as he defines it. Industries not part of his collective endeavor (oil and gas and coal) are penalized. Industries that serve his conception of “general welfare” (green technology) are to be promoted even if the market rejects them.

PES: Ensuring long lasting prosperity, stability and above all, peace requires effective coordination in the international realm based on democracy, mutual respect, and human rights.

Obama: Places reliance on international institutions, international consensus, and mutual respect in the conduct of foreign policy. (The United States must coordinate its foreign policy with international organizations and treat even rogue nations with respect in the hope that they will voluntarily improve their behavior).

PES: A strong state must preserve the public good, guarantee the common interest, promote justice and solidarity and allow people to lead lives rich beyond material wealth, so that each individual’s fulfillment is also part of a collective endeavor.

Obama: Advocates a strong state that offers the “positive right” of political and economic justice to its citizens. He complains that the U.S. Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties,” that dictates what government “can’t do to you, but it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.”

No, Obama isn't a socialist at ALL.


2008: "Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney's private assassination team."


2011: "I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden."





2008: "Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial."



2011: "I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden."






2008: "Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated."


2011: "Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden."

FLIP FLOP

Between the GDP, the credit hit we took, and the unemployment still high, he has been a failure. You can say "he inherited a mess! You have to give him more time!" He said if he couldn't get things done in 4 years, he would be a one term President. Well he will be. He accepted this position with the understanding that no matter what, he is in charge of turning it around. You can't blame Bush for any issues. You have to handle them and move on. If you came into a job and couldn't do anything to turn around operations there, would you still a job? Are your managers cool with "well the person before me was bad at his job, so I need about 8 years to fix things"? No, they want change right now, if you can't do it, they will find someone who can.
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