Up-and-coming Bronx neighborhoods? (Webster, Pelham, Boston: school, university, to live in)

[Jrock247]

I think your talking about the guy who got hit by a stray bullet at a picnic in Pelham Bay Park. Supposedly his groups didn't know the shooters group, but who really knows.

Yes Pelham Bay is safe, best areas are further from the El. As for up and coming areas of the bronx.....
Its pretty working class to poor except for riverdale. Theres a bunch of art gallerys on city island, but the whole burrough is more isolated from the parts of manhattan that have the majority of high paying jobs (midtown and south), for it to attract to the class of people that "gentrify" a neighborhood. Who knows maybe hipsters will start moving to belmont, buildings aren't that different from the village? Probably not but anythings possible. Who would've thought LIC would be hot today?

[solibs]

Originally Posted by Manhattan-ite

Move to New Jersey? Backhome39, you must be kidding! Better in the Bronx with rats and shootings than in New Jersey. N-e-v-e-r.

There's this interesting website called www.ihatenewjersey.com

I know this is old but, really?

It's always the people who moved to NYC from Kansas or Iowa who say stuff like that.

I would pick Hoboken, Jersey City and just about anywhere along the PATH or Hudson/Bergen line before I moved anywhere in the Bronx or Staten Island. That goes the same for about half of Brooklyn and 90% of Queens.

[cotb16]

Originally Posted by Jrock247

I think your talking about the guy who got hit by a stray bullet at a picnic in Pelham Bay Park. Supposedly his groups didn't know the shooters group, but who really knows.

Yes Pelham Bay is safe, best areas are further from the El. As for up and coming areas of the bronx.....
Its pretty working class to poor except for riverdale. Theres a bunch of art gallerys on city island, but the whole burrough is more isolated from the parts of manhattan that have the majority of high paying jobs (midtown and south), for it to attract to the class of people that "gentrify" a neighborhood. Who knows maybe hipsters will start moving to belmont, buildings aren't that different from the village? Probably not but anythings possible. Who would've thought LIC would be hot today?

Same thing is going on in Eastern Morrisania. Most of the new townhouses are built away from the 2/5 lines (especially in the vicinity of Freeman and Jennings Sts east of Prospect Av).

[cotb16]

Originally Posted by Beetlebum

i used to live in the Bronx in Morris Park up until 1997. i would not even recommend moving there now. the neighborhood is not nearly as italian as it used to be and the overall fabric of the community is down. i used to live on the esplanade and while my old block is alright, the further you go down by the jewish community center it has experienced a big change. it is clearly not as safe as it used to be. indian village which is a neighborhood within morris park, even they have some problems. my uncle experienced an attempted car jacking and they broke into his garage one night.

oh and the people in this thread that are saying pelham bay i repeat do not move there. that neighborhood is going to go bad within the next 5 years.

Many Hispanics (particularly Puerto Ricans coming from Soundview and the South Bronx) are moving into the Central and Southeastern Bronx since most of the new housing being built in the Southwest Bronx is made for low-income tenants. In addition, many families want to be in neighborhoods with excellent schools for their children and sufficient amenities (such as mom-and-pop shops and several chain stores).

[hypnotizzed]

Hmm..what evidence do you have to support your assertion? The reality is PRs have been leaving the borough for well over 15 years, and if they are moving it is OUT of the Bronx, not into the central/southeastern areas, as both the central and southeastern Bronx have been losing PR population. Furthermore, the housing being built in the Southwest Bronx is actually middle income housing, not low income. The average HH income in NYC is $42,000, and the typical maximum income for these new affordable housing developments is about $45,000 in general for a family of 4, and about $30,000 for single people..which falls right in line with the average of NYC, and the target market of working/middle class residents for affordable housing.

[Mr.Triny33]

The Melrose Section of the Bronx is continuing it's revitalization, I just got word that another Condo development will be built in front of the Aurora, set to break ground in Feb. 09, to go along with Aurora, The Orion, plus more affordable middle-income housing like the Dorado ready to come online. In 5 years this area will look very different, in a positive way..

[cotb16]

Originally Posted by hypnotizzed

Hmm..what evidence do you have to support your assertion? The reality is PRs have been leaving the borough for well over 15 years, and if they are moving it is OUT of the Bronx, not into the central/southeastern areas, as both the central and southeastern Bronx have been losing PR population. Furthermore, the housing being built in the Southwest Bronx is actually middle income housing, not low income. The average HH income in NYC is $42,000, and the typical maximum income for these new affordable housing developments is about $45,000 in general for a family of 4, and about $30,000 for single people..which falls right in line with the average of NYC, and the target market of working/middle class residents for affordable housing.

Most Puerto Ricans are either leaving the Bronx altogether, or heading to the Southeastern/Central Bronx such as Morris Park, Westchester Square, Throggs Neck, Pelham Bay. The areas that they left are now Dominican and Mexican such as Soundview, Longwood, Hunts Point, High Bridge, Fordham, Tremont, Morrisania, and Morris Heights.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by cotb16

Most Puerto Ricans are either leaving the Bronx altogether, or heading to the Southeastern/Central Bronx such as Morris Park, Westchester Square, Throggs Neck, Pelham Bay. The areas that they left are now Dominican and Mexican such as Soundview, Longwood, Hunts Point, High Bridge, Fordham, Tremont, Morrisania, and Morris Heights.

Soundview, Longwood, Hunts Point, and Morrisania are still majority Puerto Rican.


Fordham, Tremont, Highbridge, and Morris Heights (along with University Heights) have been Dominican neighborhoods since the 1980's.

Highbridge and CD 4 has the highest percentage of Dominicans in all the Bronx.

CD 5 (Morris/Uni Heights, Tremont, Fordham) have less Puerto Ricans than CD 7 (Uni Heights, Fordham-Bedford, Norwood) above it. The difference lies in that Fordham-Bedford is very very Puerto Rican. But CD 5 has about 10% more African Americans than CD 7.

I have exact percentages, I will post them later.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Soundview, Longwood, Hunts Point, and Morrisania are still majority Puerto Rican.


Fordham, Tremont, Highbridge, and Morris Heights (along with University Heights) have been Dominican neighborhoods since the 1980's.

Highbridge and CD 4 has the highest percentage of Dominicans in all the Bronx.

CD 5 (Morris/Uni Heights, Tremont, Fordham) have less Puerto Ricans than CD 7 (Uni Heights, Fordham-Bedford, Norwood) above it. The difference lies in that Fordham-Bedford is very very Puerto Rican. But CD 5 has about 10% more African Americans than CD 7.

I have exact percentages, I will post them later.

I meant CD 4 has less Ricans than CD 7.

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As of 2006 community survey

CD 1 + CD 2 (Mott Haven, Melrose, Hunts Point, Longwood)

27% Black
2% White
1% Asian
69% Hispanic
55% Puerto Rican
31% Dominican
14% Mexican
1% Cuban

CD 3 + CD 6 (Morrisania, Crotona Park East, West Farms, East Tremont)

32% Black
4% White
1% Asian
62% Hispanic
46% Puerto Rican
43% Dominican
10% Mexican
1% Cuban

CD 4 (Highbridge, Concourse)

34% Black
1% White
2% Asian
61% Hispanic
61% Dominican
31% Puerto Rican
8% Mexican
1% Cuban

CD 5 (Morris Heights, Tremont, University Heights, Fordham)

29% Black
1% White
2% Asian
67% Hispanic
59% Dominican
34% Puerto Rican
7% Mexican
1% Cuban

CD 7 (University Heights, Fordham-Bedford, Bedford Park, Norwood)

20% Black
7% White
6% Asian
62% Hispanic
54% Dominican
33% Puerto Rican
12% Mexican
1% Cuban

CD 9 (Soundview, Castle Hill, Parkchester)

32% Black
3% White
6% Asian
57% Hispanic
57% Puerto Rican
34% Dominican
8% Mexican
2% Cuban

[cotb16]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Soundview, Longwood, Hunts Point, and Morrisania are still majority Puerto Rican.


Fordham, Tremont, Highbridge, and Morris Heights (along with University Heights) have been Dominican neighborhoods since the 1980's.

Highbridge and CD 4 has the highest percentage of Dominicans in all the Bronx.

CD 5 (Morris/Uni Heights, Tremont, Fordham) have less Puerto Ricans than CD 7 (Uni Heights, Fordham-Bedford, Norwood) above it. The difference lies in that Fordham-Bedford is very very Puerto Rican. But CD 5 has about 10% more African Americans than CD 7.

I have exact percentages, I will post them later.

When I lived in Fordham in the early 90s (187th and Marion), the area was mixed with Dominicans and Puerto Ricans. Most of the Dominicans lived west of the Grand Concourse. Nowadays, most Dominicans live west of Webster and they are spreading more eastward to East Tremont, Morrisania (especially around Boston Rd and Tinton Avenue), and West Farms.