Trigger Happy NYPD at it again! (New York, York: law, moving to, design)

[WildCardSteve]

Sounds like a horrible tragedy. I would'nt be too quick to blame the cops this time, though I do think they've been a bit "trigger happy" in the past.

I think a large part of this problem is young and inexperienced officers.

[YoungLove21]

Originally Posted by Baby Punisher

It only takes the same fraction of a second for a skell to to shoot & kill a cop. I'd rather a cop be on the right side of that bullet anyday.

The NYPD did not cause this guys death.

Wait, so he didnt die from a NYPD bullet?

Oh ok.

[Mr. Chad]

Originally Posted by StaggerLee22

This is from the NRA.
I think they know a little more about guns than you.
The NUMBER 2 MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF GUN SAFETY:

2--- ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
When holding a gun, rest your finger on the trigger guard or along the side of the gun. Until you are actually ready to fire, do not touch the trigger.

I agree with you 100%

[Airborneguy]

The NYPD doesn't teach officers to place their finger over the trigger when covering a target.

That said, this is one of those horrible, one-in-a-million incidents that unfortunately will happen every so often in the real world of policing densely packed cities with criminals willing to undertake activities such as these robbers did. The responding cops don't have super powers; they answer to reality. Days later, the mouths have the benefit of time, safety, and numerous camera angles. This cop will be back on the beat eventually, and rightfully so. Anyone who thinks this was a criminal act will always think cops' actions are criminal. Cest'La Vie.

[unctorious]

Originally Posted by nycjowww

Should the perps suffer a murder charge though? I mean they technically didn't do it. Is their another type of charge that could explain them cause this chain of reaction?

They may have been charged under the 'Felony Murder' rule - it's been a while but basically if criminals are committing a felony and an innocent person is caused to be killed, the criminals can be charged with felony murder. Not sure if the circumstances of this killing fit into the rule.

[ByronicCoward]

Originally Posted by r small

Not much detail to this story but it seems likely that the cop had his finger on the trigger or inside the trigger guard of his weapon. Unless he was in the process of actually firing a shot, his trigger finger should have been OUTSIDE the trigger guard, resting alongside the frame of the gun. Doesn't NYPD teach this?

I'd say they probably "do". But since they modified the Triggers to 12lbs, most cop ignore that bit of training just so they're could react quicker. I.E, finger on the trigger I can start pulling a .5 second earlier.

[r small]

If any cops are found to be ignoring the basic rules of firearms safety they should be severely disciplined.

[Jaydata]

Originally Posted by ByronicCoward

I'd say they probably "do". But since they modified the Triggers to 12lbs, most cop ignore that bit of training just so they're could react quicker. I.E, finger on the trigger I can start pulling a .5 second earlier.

So..... Trigger pull weight of 12 lbs meaning in order to fire a shot the shooter needs
to put atleast 12 lbs of force literally on the trigger with their finger? Or 12 lbs doesn't
really mean 12 lbs when it comes to gun trigger?

If you really need that much force to pull a trigger on the NYPD guns, no wonder the
NYPD are kind of lousy with their accuracy. How do you stay on the target when you
spend so much energy just pulling the trigger.

[r small]

It's a tradeoff. The heavier trigger pull reduces the chance of an unintended discharge but does make accuracy more difficult.

[Mr. Chad]

The Glock triggers are nice...not too light, not too heavy.

The sig triggers on the other hand .....I'm not to sure