Worst Project in NYC (Livonia: shop, safe, murders)

[ChiMack]

what do you guys think of Mill brook houses in the bronx...?

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by ChiMack

what do you guys think of Mill brook houses in the bronx...?

One of the worst. Though not as bad as Mitchell, Patterson and Mott Haven.

[bx718]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

One of the worst. Though not as bad as Mitchell, Patterson and Mott Haven.

Agreed however, I think the claremont village PJs are much worse.

[R32]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Cyrus, your getting on my nerves.

How is East NY and Browsnville more dangerous than East Harlem and ABC? Prove it to me.

I showed you the crime map. C'mon man. Stop with your biased point of view. You may have not tought East Harlem was bad, but that's irrelevant. The crime stats show that indeed East Harlem is worse than any of the Brooklyn nabes, aswell as ABC. Did you even look at the map? Brownsville and East NY are really overrated in these forums. Ok, they're bad. But they are not the worst. They are huge, thats why they get 20+ homicides yearly.

A neighborhood being dangerous has nothing to do with it's crime statistics. Anyone who has been to brownsville, ENY and east harlem can tell you ENY and brownsville are much more dangerous than east harlem.

[italian23]

Originally Posted by ChiMack

what do you guys think of Mill brook houses in the bronx...?

what's with all the interest in projects dude?

[R32]

Originally Posted by italian23

what's with all the interest in projects dude?

Some people are drawn to the "glamor" of them I suppose you could say. But after living and being around projects my whole life I can tell you there's nothing glamorous about them.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by R32

A neighborhood being dangerous has nothing to do with it's crime statistics. Anyone who has been to brownsville, ENY and east harlem can tell you ENY and brownsville are much more dangerous than east harlem.

you said:

"neighborhood being dangerous has nothing to do with it's crime statistics"

lol...so what makes it dangerous? Your opinion. Get real.

And I been to East NY, Brownsville and to East Harlem. And my experience in East Harlem was FAR worse. All I saw in East NY were a bunch of private homes lol. In East Harlem, I tought I was gonna die. Every turn I took, took me to more projects...it was an absolute maze. Chill. Never again.

*hint" : Maybe east Harlem had a higher crime rate than ENY and Ville because it had more crime?

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Seventh, I think this constitutes as high.

[edit] Public Housing Projects

• There are eleven NYCHA developments located in East New York.[3]

1. Belmont-Sutter Area; three 3-story buildings.
2. Boulevard Houses; eighteen buildings, 6 and 14-stories tall.
3. Cypress Hills Houses; fifteen, 7-story buildings.
4. East New York City Line; thirty-three, 3-story buildings.
5. Fiorentino Plaza; eight, 4-story buildings.
6. Linden Houses; nineteen buildings, 8 and 14-stories.
7. Long Island Baptist Houses; four, 6-story rehabilitated tenement buildings.
8. Louis Heaton Pink Houses; twenty-two, 8-story buildings.
9. Unity Plaza (Sites 4, 5A, 6, 7, 11, 12, 27); five, 6-story buildings.
10. Unity Plaza (Sites 17,24,25A); three buildings, 6-stories tall.
11. Vandalia Avenue; two, 10-story buildings.

This too.

[edit] Low income public housing projects

• There are eighteen NYCHA developments located in Brownsville.[3]

1. 104-14 Tapscott Street; one 4-story building.
2. Brownsville Houses; twenty-seven buildings, 6 and 7-stories tall
3. Glenmore Plaza; four buildings, 10, 18 and 24-stories tall.
4. Howard Avenue; five buildings, 3-stories tall.
5. Howard Avenue-Park Place; eight buildings, 3-stories tall.
6. Howard Houses; ten buildings, 7 and 13-stories tall.
7. Hughes Apartments; three, 22-story buildings.
8. Sethlow Houses; four buildings, 17 and 18-stories tall.
9. Marcus Garvey (Group A); three buildings, 6 and 14-stories tall.
10. Ocean Hill-Brownsville; five rehabilitated tenement buildings, 4-stories tall.
11. Prospect Plaza Houses, three vacant 12-story buildings in the process of being rehabilitated. (Really in the Ocean Hill section of Brooklyn Community Board 16)
12. Reverend Randolph Brown; two, 6-story buildings.
13. Sutter Avenue-Union Street; three rehabilitated tenement buildings, 4 and 6-stories tall.
14. Tapscott Street Rehab; eight, 4-story rehabilitated tenement buildings.
15. Tilden Houses; eight, 16-story buildings.
16. Van Dyke I; 22 buildings, 3 and 14-stories tall.
17. Van Dyke II; one 14-story building.
18. Woodson Houses; two buildings, 10 and 25-stories tall.

You want ghetto neighborhoods with low concentration of Housing projects? Try:

University Heights, Fordham, Fordham Bedford, Tremont, Morris Heights, East Tremont, West Farms, Highbridge, Washington Heights, Inwood, West Harlem, Flatbush, East Flatbush etc

Maybe West Harlem has a little too much but the others have 3 or less. Thats low concentration. East NY is not in that disscussion.

what i'm saying is that they are spread out for the most part. i'm talking about the density in the neighborhood. ENY is a big neighborhood in land area. its not like brownsville where there are blocks and blocks of projects all right next to each other. if u just want to count how many NYCHA developments are in 1 neighborhood, then thats another story. but my point foucused on the density. east harlem is more densely concentrated with public housing than ENY cause east harlem is smaller in land area. but if you just want to tally up the amounts and base it on that, then thats something completely different. you're from the bronx and admit that you don't know much about brooklyn. well i was born in brooklyn and trust my words, if ENY had no projects it would still be a rough neighborhood because there is a high percentage of low income individuals who dont live in the projects. the projects only add on to it and make the situation much worse.

and trust me the roughest part of brownsville is much worse than the roughest part of east harlem. i've walked through east harlem at 3 AM and didn't feel in danger at all. walked down 110th from 1st avenue to lenox. i wouldn't walk anywhere at 3 AM in brownsville unless i had to. i'm not saying that you're wrong supermario, but you go to brownsville houses at 2 AM (like I have done before because I had to) and trust me you will change your mind.

[R32]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

you said:

"neighborhood being dangerous has nothing to do with it's crime statistics"

lol...so what makes it dangerous? Your opinion. Get real.

And I been to East NY, Brownsville and to East Harlem. And my experience in East Harlem was FAR worse. All I saw in East NY were a bunch of private homes lol. In East Harlem, I tought I was gonna die. Every turn I took, took me to more projects...it was an absolute maze. Chill. Never again.

*hint" : Maybe east Harlem had a higher crime rate than ENY and Ville because it had more crime?

Lol you came to east harlem and thought you were going to die. It's people like you who give it the reputation that it has.

[SuperMario]

It's a matter of opinion but many of you just gass Brownsville and East NY up like it's worst than hell itself. I know it's bad, but not the way you guys make it seem.

Personally, I dont like the vibe I felt in East Harlem.