How safe is Flatbush? (New York, York: sale, violent crime, co-ops)

[madmj]

How about you hop on a train and tell me how it is yourself

[Elvira Black]

Actially a more accuate term would be xenophobia, a worldwide malady. What else do you call it if you fear and yet want whites to move in, and you fear and desperately want blacks to move....live in liferafts in the Bronx or Hudson rivers if you have too.

[Elvira Black]

Originally Posted by BXGEAR

Lol elvira. live a little

Do I detect an oh so slight hint of sarcasm and condecension in your...um..."recommendation" to me? If I'm correct, you are probably young enough to be my son, at the very least. I am living not just a little, but as much as I possibly can until I drop.

Pity, e-mail and forums often lead to misunderstandings, so perhaps you meant it as a compliment. Not.

[Brooklyn_QueenBee]

I moved from Flatbush 3 months ago. So this place is still fresh in my mind. Flatbush Gardens is a projects that is being converted. Until you empty out the entire lot and restart you'll have the same problems. Nicely converted apartments does not make a decent neighborhood. It all depends on you as a person. Stop by the area after 8 pm and take it in for yourself. Some people would adjust, others like myself would run for the borders.

[Elvira Black]

Not hard to empty out the old residents...piece of cake really.

[SeventhFloor]

Originally Posted by Elvira Black

Not hard to empty out the old residents...piece of cake really.

really....u must be unfamiliar with housing court to make a statement like that....maybe you can inform us on how easy it is...?

[SeventhFloor]

our beloved flatbush gardens....from today's daily news

[Alan B 718]

Originally Posted by Elvira Black

Not hard to empty out the old residents...piece of cake really.

without knowing the details of how they managed to get the buildings converted to co-ops (there may be some special clause to keep some of the apts for VERY low income) it might not be so easy.
Housing laws, when it comes to low income people in nyc can be very very favorable to said people. especially when it comes to project type buildings. Lots of city regulations and hoops to jump through. and considering flatbush gardens doesnt have a mob of wealthy white people foaming at the mouth to get apartments, they probably dont have much leverage.
Hell my mom's landlord has been trying to get her out of her apartment for over 20 years. she pays 500/mo for a decent 2/3 bedroom in kensington brooklyn. just to annoy him off, she wont take my name off the lease, and her building is just a 4 story walkup. She's not on any public assistance or section 8. Its very hard to get rid of people on government assistance. Since they pay little to no rent, they put up with a world of misery before they leave.

End result, you need to grease alot of peope to get things done in housing in nyc when you're gonna take advantage of low income people, and even then, theres no guarantee.

Example 1. Good Greaser - The guy building the nets stadium downtown brooklyn. Lots of people and community groups making LOTS of noise. NYC basically said "go to hell." We're getting the stadium
Example 2. Bad Greaser - Thor equities that bought up coney island and surrounding properties. Lots of people and community groups making LOTS of noise. NYC told him to go screw himself. no hotels, no highrises, no nothing. just fix up coney.

[Elvira Black]

How are they doing it in Flatbush Gardens? Click the rink and find out for yerself.

A Once-Troubled Housing Complex Seeks Change - March 15, 2007 - The New York Sun

[Elvira Black]

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

really....u must be unfamiliar with housing court to make a statement like that....maybe you can inform us on how easy it is...?

You've got a computer...do a search under the Pinnacle Group.