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Name the third world countries that have these expansive programs. And please tell us your experience with these expansive programs in these third world countries. Have you ever been to these third world countries, and experienced anything there? Or is this something you just made up, or read on a conspiracy website?
No, no, no my friend. I'm NOT here to educate you. That part of the equation is your responsibility. If you're gonna open your mouth (or type crap, whatever) you need to come prepared to the table!
However, since it's always better to teach a man to fish rather than simply throw him/her a can of tuna ..here goes:
Google or Youtube: "Programas Sociales", grab some pop-corn and learn about how the socialist-leaning governments of Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela, Cuba (all of which would be considered Third World countries) and others dump BILLIONS into social programs that keep the poor just alive enough to vote for them but not TOO alive that they might have the actual strength to REVOLT.
The corporations are holding everyone hostage, including the politicians, and I watch with interest to see where this will go. They whine and complain like spoiled children, citing "invisible hands" - i.e., a philosophy of economy written in the 18th century and that has been made to say what Smith never said, exactly. In fact, many of the disasters of the recent past involved things Smith argued specifically AGAINST. He could not have imagined where his ideas have gone. He saw them as an improvement to the exploitation of medieval economics and mercantilism, tied up with absolute rule ideologically. Enlightened thinking, which I suppose it was.
The poor, welfare people, are not the real problem. They are a symptom of the bigger problem - unchecked capitalism. The very rich and very poor are two sides of the same coin.
You hate corporations, yet you use Con Ed for your electricity, whatever big company for your internet service, and you're using a computer, made by a big company. You buy clothes manufactured by companies. You buy food that is grown by agribusiness and sold in grocery stores. You use medication, if sick, made for by big companies. Your very life is made possible by big companies.
No, no, no my friend. I'm NOT here to educate you. That part of the equation is your responsibility. If you're gonna open your mouth (or type crap, whatever) you need to come prepared to the table!
However, since it's always better to teach a man to fish rather than simply throw him/her a can of tuna ..here goes:
Google or Youtube: "Programas Sociales", grab some pop-corn and learn about how the socialist-leaning governments of Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela, Cuba (all of which would be considered Third World countries) and others dump BILLIONS into social programs that keep the poor just alive enough to vote for them but not TOO alive that they might have the actual strength to REVOLT.
I already have an education. Just because something is put on YouTube or Google does not means its true. I've placed things on YouTube and Google.
When you substantiate a claim, you verify that information from credible sources.
And you've just admitted you have no personal experience with third world countries. In History, when you do academic research, you're required to rely on primary sources for information.
So if I want information on what's going on in a third world country, the best sources would be people living there or who are from there. Or I could go there myself, and do research in a particular country or countries to find out what's going on myself.
But dude, you've not been to a third world country, by your admission, so you're not really qualified to talk on what goes on there.
I already have an education. Just because something is put on YouTube or Google does not means its true. I've placed things on YouTube and Google..
Should I take this as an admission on your part that you've posted FALSE information on YouTube and Google?
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When you substantiate a claim, you verify that information from credible sources...
OK. There's electricity coming out of your wall socket right this very instant. If you go stick your tongue in it you can confirm this fact.
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And you've just admitted you have no personal experience with third world countries. In History, when you do academic research, you're required to rely on primary sources for information...
Really? Funny that I would 'confirm' something like that after having lived over 15 years in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Where exactly is it that I 'confirmed' not having personal experience?
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"So if I want information on what's going on in a third world country, the best sources would be people living there or who are from there. ."...
Uh, that would be ME.
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"But dude, you've not been to a third world country, by your admission, so you're not really qualified to talk on what goes on there.
A fool starting from a foolish premise will invariably reach a foolish conclusion.
If you calculate it as a % of their GDP, there are many 3rd world countries that offer generous socialized programs and these are part of what given them trouble for many years. The Philippines, for example, has this obscene rice subsidy offered by its NFA. Under the Marcos regime, it even subsidized groceries and the price of gasoline. Fortunately it cut many of these programs over time albeit with a lot of short term pain and the economy has recently been doing well. I won't even expound on the subsidies of India, Brazil, Venezuela etc. But the ones that have rationalized their social programs like the Philippines, Colombia, Costa Rica and Chile are now doing very well economically.
If you calculate it as a % of their GDP, there are many 3rd world countries that offer generous socialized programs and these are part of what given them trouble for many years. The Philippines, for example, has this obscene rice subsidy offered by its NFA. Under the Marcos regime, it even subsidized groceries and the price of gasoline. Fortunately it cut many of these programs over time albeit with a lot of short term pain and the economy has recently been doing well. I won't even expound on the subsidies of India, Brazil, Venezuela etc. But the ones that have rationalized their social programs like the Philippines, Colombia, Costa Rica and Chile are now doing very well economically.
What happened to the people who once received subsidies ?
This is a real question - I have no idea.
And this was poor planning on the behalf of those who built NYC. There's no reason the rest of the nation has to subsidize trash, or a system that is apparently dysfunctional.
It wasn't just the loss of manufacturing jobs. Companies like IBM, AT&T, GE, among other moved their corporate headquarters out of NYC. Taxes were an issue, and there many major companies that also moved certain operations to Jersey or CT, when they got tax breaks from these states.
ummm....wrong yet again. IBM and AT&T had nothing to do with NYC's fiscal crisis. AT&T first of all was founded in the Southwest US in the early 1980s as Southwesten Bell. IBM's headquarters have been in Westchester County since 1964. For somebody who's handle is NYWriterdude, your facts are skewed like I don't know what.
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Just wait until the Chinese get a grip on the Service and Tech industries as they did manufacturing, NYC will look like Detroit, Cleveland and Buffalo.
China will never get a grip on anything because they don't play fair and they cut corners. Look at that aquarium that collapsed in the mall the other day. They build everything there with toothpicks and Elmers glue. All they care about is if it gets built in a day. They just passed a law saying that it's mandatory for adult kids to visit the elderly because the government cant care for them. What grip. The only thing China has on us is population. Their products are inferior and their government is too prohibitive. Lol what grip.
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If you calculate it as a % of their GDP, there are many 3rd world countries that offer generous socialized programs and these are part of what given them trouble for many years. The Philippines, for example, has this obscene rice subsidy offered by its NFA. Under the Marcos regime, it even subsidized groceries and the price of gasoline. Fortunately it cut many of these programs over time albeit with a lot of short term pain and the economy has recently been doing well. I won't even expound on the subsidies of India, Brazil, Venezuela etc. But the ones that have rationalized their social programs like the Philippines, Colombia, Costa Rica and Chile are now doing very well economically.
Rep points.
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