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I'm a mostly working-from-home professional that thinks of moving to NYC. I understand that means paying NYS+NYC taxes. I've been thinking of how to reduce my tax liability , legally .
Some of the ideas I found were : Live n NJ and pay no NYC taxes
Since I travel sometimes , is it possible to claim myself as non-resident incomtax payer ? it's six months per year to be considered resident , right ?
Any ideas about that ? I don't work for anyone in NYC , I just rather want to live there temporarily for the experience and who knows , maybe find a better chance ?
I'm also curious about this residency audit ? how strict they are ? what kind of info they track ? How can they track someone who's subletting or living with a friend or off the records ?
Don't worry , my employer deducts my taxes so I'll have to pay them anyhow
Make sure you pay rent or a mortgage in another state, have voter registration in another state, and have a driver's license in another state. Pay your estimated federal taxes with your out-of-state address. Make sure you pay your state taxes to your claimed state of residence.
The law says that if you are a part time resident you must prorate your tax liability among taxing entities so you are your own best judge of how you want to handle that.
the law also says it is insurance fraud if you do not insure your car where it is garaged most of the time. i would have loved to pay all the bills i could out of our PA house but not only is it insurance fraud but it can be tax fraud.
i really wanted a pa drivers license so i would not have to pay non resident fees for hunting and fishing licenses there for my wife and i. they were a few hundred a year...
could not do the drivers license without the regi and couldn't do the regi without comitting insurance fraud.
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They watch you like a hawk and keep tabs on your air travel,toll passes,etc.
I have friends who tried to claim Florida residency but were taken down by NY State.The penalties and interest were worse than the tax.I know someone else who went through the same thing and is now very careful not to set foot in NY State for more than 30 days a year.
The whole game is stupid if you ask me.If you want to live in NY, pay the price.
As long as you spend less than 184 days in the state, you're not a resident. If you spend 184 days or more in the state and maintain a "permanent place of abode" (which renting a place would count as), you're a resident.
You could get away with an off-the-books place, but you'd have to maintain a residency elsewhere. Seems to me that's likely to cost more than the taxes.
not quite, under 6 months you are still a resident but you are not a primary resident. folks get confused all the time between being a resident and primary residency.. they are very different .
just by owning property in pa i was a resident. but because it was not my primary residence for at least 183 days as well as was my base for lmost of my functions it was not my primary.
for most benefits like auto insurance and taxes you need to have it as your primary residence .
you can be a resident of ny just by stating you intend to live here and have an address and you can get a drivers license . but until you are here 183 days or so you can not call it your primary residence unless the rest of your time is split up among other states.
not quite, under 6 months you are still a resident but you are not a primary resident. folks get confused all the time between being a resident and primary residency.. they are very different .
We're talking about residency for tax purposes, which is the 184 days thing. There are other definitions of residency but they're not what's at issue.
They watch you like a hawk and keep tabs on your air travel,toll passes,etc.
I have friends who tried to claim Florida residency but were taken down by NY State.The penalties and interest were worse than the tax.I know someone else who went through the same thing and is now very careful not to set foot in NY State for more than 30 days a year.
The whole game is stupid if you ask me.If you want to live in NY, pay the price.
This is true. I know half a dozen people who were aggressively audited by NYS - and they legitimately did not live here for more than a few months a year, if that. None came out well. People basically gave up and just paid.
Since the state is broke I would think it is far worse now.
It looks like it's a nightmare and I read everywhere that NYS is the worst when it comes to auditing
Few notes
- I've DL in another state
- I own no car and I don't want to so no insurance ...etc
Suppose I travel abroad for sometime , few months , can I get away without those ? I know tax are on world income but even the city ?
I may try to pursue my employer to have a pump in pay to offset the extra taxes , my move may be helpful for them
appreciate the help
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