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Old 02-27-2013, 05:37 PM
 
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American Eagle leases space in Harlem - NYPOST.com

Gentrification is a beautiful thing. All we really need to do is knock down the projects, and Manhattan becomes Monaco on the Hudson, if it's not already!
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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125th street is 125th street. Not representative of rest of neighborhood.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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125th street is 125th street. Not representative of rest of neighborhood.
You can't be serious. Shopping options are a central aspect of any neighborhood. This development, which will bring Whole Foods, American Eagle and Burlington Coat Factory to Harlem, is huge.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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125th street is 125th street. Not representative of rest of neighborhood.
What do you mean by 'Not representative of rest of neighborhood'. So you are saying that there is no Gentrification happening in Harlem? Because it sure is happening LOL. In 10 years there will be more Whites and in 20 years most of the population will be Whites, Asians and Hispanics with a minority population of Blacks.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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Nothing says class and refinement like a mall with an American Eagle in it.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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Why does the word Gentrification have to be used. Why can't the words more inclusive or diverse be used. Hey, That's what was said to my parents in 79 in Washington Heights or to me when I lived in Mosholu Pkwy up in the Bronx. I just notice when a area goes from being mostly black or latino to caucasian its Gentrification.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Why does the word Gentrification have to be used. Why can't the words more inclusive or diverse be used. Hey, That's what was said to my parents in 79 in Washington Heights or to me when I lived in Mosholu Pkwy up in the Bronx. I just notice when a area goes from being mostly black or latino to caucasian its Gentrification.
It's not a matter of changing racial characteristics, though that also tends to happen. It's gentrification when middle class and wealthy residents replace poor residents. It happens within racial groups as well. Witness the transformations of Carroll Gardens and Greenpoint, both of which were as heavily white before gentrification as after (or during, in the case of Greenpoint, which is far from completely gentrified). The replacement of poor blacks by middle class and wealthy black residents in Fort Greene in the '90s was an example of intraracial gentrification, too, though these days Fort Greene is increasingly white. Harlem has also seem some of intraracial gentrification, too, especially in places like Strivers Row and the Mount Morris Park Historic District.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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Burlington Coat Factory is gentry now? As for the off-price retailers left, Century 21 or Daffy's might be more a sign of gentrification. Whole Foods opens up options for those in the area, which is a good thing, as there is better access to quality foods, not to mention Fairway is already in Harlem, so WF better open a store, too, lest they lose market share. AE is following the pack as well because Gap and Old Navy are already on 125th.

More shopping options allows neighborhood access to goods and services in under-served markets for these retailers, which is a sign of economic health in the city, especially when people are employed as that spurs tax revenue and sales tax revenue from the retailers. However, one can have an economically healthy and stable neighborhood without an immediate call of gentrification, especially in the term that it means an arrival of caucasion people. Last time I checked, there are people of other ethnic backgrounds who also earn healthy incomes, and would like to shop in areas that they call home, too. If Bergdorf Goodman and Barney's were the new retail shops, then that might be an indicator of dramatically shifting demographics.

And, can we please contain discussion of NYCHA and future options and opinions to threads that are already started on that subject, including one by the OP. Thanks.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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This opening is a sign of an increasing middle class in Harlem, not of the gentry. It means that the area is becoming less poor, but not necessarily rich, or even upper middle class. Bloomingdales and Bergdorff are gentrification. America Eagle and Burlington are not. That said, it is a change for the better and yes, sooner rather than later, Harlem's middle-class, black, white, and Latino, will be dominant
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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This opening is a sign of an increasing middle class in Harlem, not of the gentry. It means that the area is becoming less poor, but not necessarily rich, or even upper middle class. Bloomingdales and Bergdorff are gentrification. America Eagle and Burlington are not. That said, it is a change for the better and yes, sooner rather than later, Harlem's middle-class, black, white, and Latino, will be dominant
I agree.
The Gap is an "outlet," and the Old Navy is absolute bottom.
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