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Old 03-22-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Read about it here.

FreshDirect Defends New Bronx Facility Against Legal Challenge - DNAinfo.com New York

I do believe that Fresh Direct will ultimately prevail. Every major expansion of anything lately in the city, whether from Columbia and NYU expansions, to Barclays, is always targeted by activists for the poor. But said activists always lose in court. The fact that there is any investment willing to come to the South Bronx is great, and after the activists lose their court case, more investment will come to the South Bronx. Just as after the activists lose their cases against Barclay's and Columbia, more investment came to upper Manhattan and Brooklyn.
South Bronx Unite

Boycott FreshDirect
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Cant wait till I watch the film about this subject. Also s sports arena and a college campus are vastly different from warehouse that ships food when it comes to drawing crowds of developers . Do you expect a condo opening up across the street from a blight looking fresh direct facility in Mott Haven? Orgasimm.

You mean this: BATTLE FOR BROOKLYN by Suki Hawley & Michael Galinsky - Documentary Film @ Brooklyn Film Festival?
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Not necessarily, but there would be other businesses that WOULD move into the area as well. As Fresh Direct is building a facility there, others would as well, and not just in warehousing. This is good news as it is private sector investment. That is what the South Bronx desperately needs, real money beyond FOOD STAMPS.
Not really. I worked in work development with Section 8 clients and had a few clients who were here...and they all still were eligible for food stamps and Section 8.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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It is great news or good news. Pop champagne bottles, yay. All this facility gonna do is pay locals in the area living wage salary which is good to some extent, but even with living wage salary some may still need food stamps to feed their kids , or NYCHA for subsidized housing. I even knew a fresh direct worker who used to make connect stops in between deliveries. Why? Because the pay is not great. Maybe more warehouse business will sprout up in the area with all those trucks passing by, plauging the lungs of the youths with asthma, and putting a strain on medicaid.
If they succeed in setting up shop here, that is a last stake in the coffin in terms of ensuring that the Bronx remains a dumping ground for anything nobody else wants in their backyard. The pay is not great and there is no current job creation mandate, plus they get $130 million in subsidies. They also ilelgally dumped broken trucks in the Harlem River Yards area after Hurricane Sandy despite not yet sealing the deal.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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If they succeed in setting up shop here, that is a last stake in the coffin in terms of ensuring that the Bronx remains a dumping ground for anything nobody else wants in their backyard. The pay is not great and there is no current job creation mandate, plus they get $130 million in subsidies. They also ilelgally dumped broken trucks in the Harlem River Yards area after Hurricane Sandy despite not yet sealing the deal.
They'll win. The courts have consistently favored development deals and ignored protesters/poverty pimps. Thank god.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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They'll win. The courts have consistently favored development deals and ignored protesters/poverty pimps. Thank god.
Poverty pimps? Boro Prez Diaz and other "activists" are all for this. We are actually doing pretty well and FreshDirect has receded a bit in that now that area they wanted to develop will be smaller than before.
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Sha83, you are right that FreshDirect knows they have a losing battle and have been caving ever since the community pushed back. They initially were not planning on serving the Bronx at all (with the exception of 2 zipcodes), not even the community they were building the warehouse....but they suddenly changed their tune and now serving the entire borough. Weird huh?

But the ultimate nail in the coffin as to why this expansion will not happen in the South Bronx (or at least not this specific location) is this:

The expansion is based on a 20+ year old environmental impact study. Freshdirect has already admitted publicly that if they had to provide a new environmental impact study, as mandated by law, they would not be able to open on this site. Oops! And furthermore, this site was leased to a private owner by the city and was mandated by the lease contract, to lease to business which use freight lines, not auto or trucks. Of course this has not happened either as the owner has leased major parcels to truck heavy paper publishing plants and delivery services (like FedEx). Freshdirect would be another violation of the lease. They have violated terms of the lease, and now in court because they may lose control of the entire site, and not just the parcel proposed for FreshDirect! Double Oops!

So you can take the word of the uninformed op who doesn't know anything about this case, or you can take the word of FreshDirect themselves who know they are screwed, as well as the owner of the giant property who is now at risk of losing the entire thing!

FreshDirect will not be moving on this site:

Not just because it a confiscation of prime waterfront property and public land
Not just because it is a waste of tax payer funds with no tax payer benefit
Not just because the community was not even consulted
Not just because there was no guarantee of any jobs for anyone, ever
Not just because FreshDirect had no interest in even serving the borough but just using it for trucks.....

But because they will not legally be allowed to because of the required environmental impact which they already know will prevent them from opening. Sorry fo ya!
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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If they succeed in setting up shop here, that is a last stake in the coffin in terms of ensuring that the Bronx remains a dumping ground for anything nobody else wants in their backyard. The pay is not great and there is no current job creation mandate, plus they get $130 million in subsidies. They also ilelgally dumped broken trucks in the Harlem River Yards area after Hurricane Sandy despite not yet sealing the deal.

I agree with you 100%, projects like this only makes sure that the Bronx especially the Southern Bronx will remain a dumping ground for years to come. Even thouogh the pay is not great workers will still need to rely on the states welfare programs to get by, along with subsidized and rent controlled housing.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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the South Bronx
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Did you two switch bodies somehow?
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:08 PM
 
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Not necessarily, but there would be other businesses that WOULD move into the area as well. As Fresh Direct is building a facility there, others would as well, and not just in warehousing. This is good news as it is private sector investment. That is what the South Bronx desperately needs, real money beyond FOOD STAMPS.
You know what. I rather people live solely off of taxpayer checks than work for private businesses subsidized by the taxpayer so that the owners/shareholders can make a few more dollars.

We have a serious problem in this country of publicly subsidizing private profits. I wouldn't care as much if the employees are being paid well but when they're paid **** wages it's simply a transfer of public monies into a few private pockets.
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