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Why do housing projects need to be placed in the most expensive city in the world? Not everyone should be entitled to live in one of the most expensive cities in the nation. Move the projects to Buffalo.
Why do housing projects need to be placed in the most expensive city in the world? Not everyone should be entitled to live in one of the most expensive cities in the nation. Move the projects to Buffalo.
Very funny. Ok so if your a rich and wealthy person, are you going to pay your servants and nannies 6 figure salaries. Or how about when you shop at Duane Reade, or Walgreens or CVS, cleanup on aisle 6, do you have any more toothpaste in the back, who do you think works in places like this to serve the so called wannabe 1% Yuppie who comes from fly over country? People who live in he projects. If the city got rid of its housing projects and shipped those folks out, plenty of folks who depend on people in the projects for service will cry, complain, ***** and nag at the end of the day. For some already the projects are already expensive. One person paying 900 a month in NYCHA can live in a better area with cheaper COL and QOL, plus live in a two car garage Mcmansion for 900 dollars a month in a place like GA, or FL or AZ.
The city has the power to levy taxes. If were that interested in maintaining NYCHA, it could have levied taxes to do so. Of course this would be a politically unpopular moved, as they want to attract people to the city who have money to pay the city taxes, as opposed to having more people in who utilized city services lifelong.
So considering what's been happening to government owned assets in the city, how could we be sure that the city isn't strongly considering a sale of at least some NYCHA assets? Oh, and by the way, for NYCHA buildings that were in really poor repair they demolished.
Taxes should be raised. NYC has been doing a very poor job maintaining its middle class for the past 40-50 years its going to get worst. First the middle class leaves during much of the white flight leaving behind much of the city poor who depends on middle class taxes to fund services. It took some years for the poor to become middle class themselves a generation later and its the same ending result but not with one race but multiple races, these folks can no longer afford the city and pack up and move to lower cost better quality of life areas in and around the tristate area or outside of it. Its going to come to a point where the city might have to raise taxes on the status quo to fund services for poor and pay city employees, taxing working class workers will also force them out of the city too. To avert this NYC should try to do a better job at preserving the middle class which used to be the cities tax base.
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Originally Posted by HellUpInHarlem
They've already sold off some NYCHA assets. Some went to Citibank. Believe me, the government and politicians would have put a better deal on the table, besides creating tax initiatives, which generally keeps all parties investments alive and thriving to ensure that this wouldn't happen. Clearly, there is an agenda, and believe me, when its all said and done, the poor in NYCHA are going to be displaced. Without a doubt. Anytime it takes a year or longer, and theres a backlog of repairs that are needed in units, there is a serious problem, and it aint manpower that can get the jobs done. Things are purposely happening in that order, so these developments can deteriorate to a point of no repair. Then, NYCHA will say up! It's time to demolish them, or put a buyout on the table, because there's nothing we can do, with no operating budget.
I saw this coming from a mile away. I do think underutilized buildings of NYCHA will probably be sold or converted.
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Originally Posted by livingsinglenyc
It should be a fear. No one was ever promised affordable housing in NYC for life. Maybe it will make people increase their income or cut their spending so they can afford this city without getting a large break on their rent.
I agree. What needs to happen is that the city and the state should do away with minimum wage and let private companies pay service workers living wage incomes. I think living wage income in NYC is at 13 dollars an hour and still climbing. To bad inflation of the U.S dollar can not be slowed down.
Very funny. Ok so if your a rich and wealthy person, are you going to pay your servants and nannies 6 figure salaries. Or how about when you shop at Duane Reade, or Walgreens or CVS, cleanup on aisle 6, do you have any more toothpaste in the back, who do you think works in places like this to serve the so called wannabe 1% Yuppie who comes from fly over country? People who live in he projects. If the city got rid of its housing projects and shipped those folks out, plenty of folks who depend on people in the projects for service will cry, complain, ***** and nag at the end of the day. For some already the projects are already expensive. One person paying 900 a month in NYCHA can live in a better area with cheaper COL and QOL, plus live in a two car garage Mcmansion for 900 dollars a month in a place like GA, or FL or AZ.
The wealthiest people have live in servants and nannies, not domestic staff who live in housing projects. Or alternatively, they do pay their staff enough money to maintain their own apartments. They may have to move uptown or to the outer boroughs.
The issue is that many of the people in the housing projects don't work at all. There are various disability scams, where people used to move to NYC to take advantage of very generous welfare programs. Example, if you got HIV, in the past you automatically got FREE housing, FREE medical care, food stamps, and cash public assistance. That problem is being butchered with the others, so people no longer move here to get on that program. Even something like SSI for mental disability, please, in the past it was easy to fake mental illness, get SSI, be in NYC, get food stamps and section 8 on top of that.
So if you are claiming you can't work because of mental and/or physical illness, why do you have to be maintained in the MOST EXPENSIVE city in the country?
At this point we are not talking about working people, we're talking about the population that doesn't work and that alleges disability, of which you have PLENTY in the PROJECTS. (And many of them work off the books).
For that matter, why should FEDERAL taxpayers, (you know, the nation at large) defacto subsidize businesses in NY that don't pay what would sustain market rate apartments? You just saw those cutbacks to NYCHA, and the elimination of 75000 Section 8 vouchers (for those living in private housing). The nation as a whole is cutting off NYC's free lunch/welfare party. A lot of poor people will either have to get jobs or leave.
Taxes should be raised. NYC has been doing a very poor job maintaining its middle class for the past 40-50 years its going to get worst. First the middle class leaves during much of the white flight leaving behind much of the city poor who depends on middle class taxes to fund services. It took some years for the poor to become middle class themselves a generation later and its the same ending result but not with one race but multiple races, these folks can no longer afford the city and pack up and move to lower cost better quality of life areas in and around the tristate area or outside of it. Its going to come to a point where the city might have to raise taxes on the status quo to fund services for poor and pay city employees, taxing working class workers will also force them out of the city too. To avert this NYC should try to do a better job at preserving the middle class which used to be the cities tax base.
I saw this coming from a mile away. I do think underutilized buildings of NYCHA will probably be sold or converted.
I agree. What needs to happen is that the city and the state should do away with minimum wage and let private companies pay service workers living wage incomes. I think living wage income in NYC is at 13 dollars an hour and still climbing. To bad inflation of the U.S dollar can not be slowed down.
Who are the voters who will vote to raise taxes? No one just wants the government to take more money out of their paychecks. Back in the day when poverty pimps ruled NYC, big companies responded to taxes by moving their headquarters out of NYC. If NYC raises taxes and the business sector thinks they are too high, they will leave. And then there will be no source of money for even WELFARE.
And lets be honest, there's a racial component to this as well. Working whites of all socioeconomic backgrounds feel that they are subsidizing a Black and Hispanic underclass. Its why the last few governors are either Republicans or Conservative Democrats who will not allow tax increases. There's been a big backlash towards the perception of Blacks and Hispanics coming to NYC too mooch off other people's money.
As Washington cuts back funding to welfare programs, Albany will not increase funding and Cuomo himself has eliminated some welfare programs and cut funding. A big part of his base is whites and then of course big businesses.
Basically, the underclass will have to get education and go out for better jobs, and/or move. The day you can cry poverty and expect lifelong support is over. Plain and simple.
with the elimination of the poor, you
eliminate a lot of businesses that cater
to poor communities too. does anyone
have anything to say about that, since
so many people get rich off poor people
everyday?
There are people whose jobs it is to maintain funding for these housing projects. The way they maintain funding is by placing "poor" people in them. Since "poor" people are more likely to be addled by drugs or circumstance, the quality of projects will remain low. If the quality of clientele gets higher, then the project's managers have "smaller" rosters.
The greatest obstacle to a housing developments' quality increase is not the clientele but, the government and its' regulations which actually -encourage- dishonesty on the part of the project's managers.
You people amaze me. You should see what was there before many of these projects were built. Tenement slums. What should Fiorello LaGuardia have done instead? Build more tenements?
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You people amaze me. You should see what was there before many of these projects were built. Tenement slums. What should Fiorello LaGuardia have done instead? Build more tenements?
It really doesn't matter what we think or what we say, actually. The bottom line is the national government and the people they represent (the overall American public) have no interest in paying for NYCHA.
No one is forced to live in NYC. There's the rest of the state, 49 other states, and over 100 countries in the world.
Expect additional federal cutbacks to happen to NYCHA.
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