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“It might not have been people moving from city to suburban neighborhoods per se, but as the region creates more low-wage jobs, and attracts more new immigrants, low-income households that in the past might have located in the Bronx or Brooklyn are now settling in places like northern New Jersey and Westchester County.
“It’s telling that the city’s ‘suburban’ borough, Staten Island, is the only one that saw its poor population increase over the 2000s.”
Among the places where the population of poor residents increased since 2000 were, in New Jersey, Bayonne, Bergenfield, Clifton, Edison Township, Garfield, Hoboken, Hunterdon County, Lakewood, Linden, Mount Olive, New Brunswick, Passaic, Paterson, Perth Amboy, Raritan, Summit, Teaneck and Woodbridge; on Long Island, Brookhaven and Glen Cove; in Westchester, Ossining; in Putnam County, Carmel; and in Rockland County, Ramapo.
I think this is a result of the growing appreciation of urban living, along with continuing increases in prices associated with driving. It's a national and international trend at this time. I don't expect it to reverse any time soon.
Yup, one of the effects of gentrfication. People often don't think about what happens to displaced poorer people. In 50 years we will have a France like situation
“It might not have been people moving from city to suburban neighborhoods per se, but as the region creates more low-wage jobs, and attracts more new immigrants, low-income households that in the past might have located in the Bronx or Brooklyn are now settling in places like northern New Jersey and Westchester County.
“It’s telling that the city’s ‘suburban’ borough, Staten Island, is the only one that saw its poor population increase over the 2000s.”
Among the places where the population of poor residents increased since 2000 were, in New Jersey, Bayonne, Bergenfield, Clifton, Edison Township, Garfield, Hoboken, Hunterdon County, Lakewood, Linden, Mount Olive, New Brunswick, Passaic, Paterson, Perth Amboy, Raritan, Summit, Teaneck and Woodbridge; on Long Island, Brookhaven and Glen Cove; in Westchester, Ossining; in Putnam County, Carmel; and in Rockland County, Ramapo.
I think this is a result of the growing appreciation of urban living, along with continuing increases in prices associated with driving. It's a national and international trend at this time. I don't expect it to reverse any time soon.
This article does not say a lot in detail, no links or sources that show the increases of poverty in the burbs. Lets not forget that what saved NYC from the housing bubble crash was the federal bailout which allow people like me and you to continue to work and live in this city, same can not be said through out rest of America. Also you can not ignore the fact that poverty has increased in the city and plenty of data from top universities show growing income disparities in NYC which have been posted on here like dozens of times. The trend of back to city movement is very miniscule due to the fact only young educated twenty somethings are moving to cities along with immigrants which make up the huge bulk of people moving to cities. If I was struggling I too would move to the burbs which has cheaper rent and good schools. I hope back to the city movement can create good public schools besides P.S 321 in Park Slope Bk! Overall I don't think I this trend will sky rocket since its only a four percent increase, I'm sure it will increase but also stagnate at some point. Lets not forget that the housing bubble popped poverty in the burbs took off like a rocket and continues to this very day.
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This article does not say a lot in detail, no links or sources that show the increases of poverty in the burbs. Lets not forget that what saved NYC from the housing bubble crash was the federal bailout which allow people like me and you to continue to work and live in this city, same can not be said through out rest of America. Also you can not ignore the fact that poverty has increased in the city and plenty of data from top universities show growing income disparities in NYC which have been posted on here like dozens of times. The trend of back to city movement is very miniscule due to the fact only young educated twenty somethings are moving to cities along with immigrants which make up the huge bulk of people moving to cities. If I was struggling I too would move to the burbs which has cheaper rent and good schools. I hope back to the city movement can create good public schools besides P.S 321 in Park Slope Bk! Overall I don't think I this trend will sky rocket since its only a four percent increase, I'm sure it will increase but also stagnate at some point. Lets not forget that the housing bubble popped poverty in the burbs took off like a rocket and continues to this very day.
The study was from the Brookings Institute. Perhaps poverty has indeed increased, but if the non-poor population has increased even more, the total percentage of people living in poverty can still decrease. Or it's all Staten Island's fault.
Lets not forget that what saved NYC from the housing bubble crash was the federal bailout which allow people like me and you to continue to work and live in this city, same can not be said through out rest of America.
Not true. And banks employ people all over the country, not just in NYC. What saved NYC from the housing crash was low inventory and a diversity of employment sectors to fall back on.
Its been a national trend for there to be more poverty in suburbs as people with money now prefer to be closer to work.
But really and truly, within the city of New York, we already have this effect big time. Look at how expensive the core city, Manhattan has become, or the parts of Brooklyn anywhere near Manhattan. Or the parts of Queens near Manhattan like Astoria and LIC. You even now have development in the South Bronx now.
Poverty is concentrating in the parts of Brooklyn that we discussed on another forum. As poor people are pushed further into Westchester or Nassau, a big problem will be the expensive commuter railroads and the overall lack of good public transportations as well as easy access to resources for the needy. This is not just a NYC thing, this is a national trend.
What I don't understand is how some suburban communities can attract poorer residents when these areas are expensive? Summit is a very affluent community and has very high taxes. How can they afford to live there?
What I don't understand is how some suburban communities can attract poorer residents when these areas are expensive? Summit is a very affluent community and has very high taxes. How can they afford to live there?
Most of them were probably already there.There are more ,formerly middle class people, descending into poverty than there are poor people moving to places like Summit.There are many angles to this phenomenon and it's not just poor people being driven out of cities.The middle class is shrinking and the poverty class is growing
the poor must be moving to places
that are being abandoned by everyone
else. that's how it always goes.
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