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No, that's not what I'm referring to at all, but I certainly wasn't wrong when I stated that some consider it to be an upper extension of Manhattan, hence the term "NoMA" (North of Manhattan). For those who aren't familiar with Riverdale, some do mistake it as being part of Manhattan, which from a geographical point of view isn't shocking, but the name makes me cringe quite frankly. We don't need some "trendy" name to define us. Riverdale is perfectly fine and we're happy being a sleepy suburb in New York City.
No offense, but you are really twisting yourself in knots to make Riverdale out to be anything but what it is: a neighborhood in the Bronx!
No offense, but you are really twisting yourself in knots to make Riverdale out to be anything but what it is: a neighborhood in the Bronx!
I don't even live there but I take offense when people write their address as Riverdale, NY 10471. And before somebody asks, "well how come they do it in Queens?" It's because Queens has more than 1 main post office with different zip codes. Aside from Manhattan, where every zip code starts with 100 with the exception of 10128, Queens zip codes start with 111, 113, 114, 115, and 116.
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No, that's not what I'm referring to at all, but I certainly wasn't wrong when I stated that some consider it to be an upper extension of Manhattan, hence the term "NoMA" (North of Manhattan). For those who aren't familiar with Riverdale, some do mistake it as being part of Manhattan, which from a geographical point of view isn't shocking, but the name makes me cringe quite frankly. We don't need some "trendy" name to define us. Riverdale is perfectly fine and we're happy being a sleepy suburb in New York City.
I think you said "most", but anyway, my point was that some things aren't open to interpretation. Residents definitely have a more realistic idea about things like safety, quality of life though.
I think you said "most", but anyway, my point was that some things aren't open to interpretation. Residents definitely have a more realistic idea about things like safety, quality of life though.
I don't even live there but I take offense when people write their address as Riverdale, NY 10471. And before somebody asks, "well how come they do it in Queens?" It's because Queens has more than 1 main post office with different zip codes. Aside from Manhattan, where every zip code starts with 100 with the exception of 10128, Queens zip codes start with 111, 113, 114, 115, and 116.
Why would you take offense to residents having pride in their neighborhood? Riverdale is a unique place that is hard to find in New York City. A nice blend of urban and suburban. The Bronx has had such a history of crime, drugs and poverty that you really can't fault us for wanting nothing to do with the borough. Someone living on the Upper East Side would certainly not want to be confused for being a part of East Harlem. It's all about class and personal pride. Nothing more, nothing less. If you lived in a nice area and was a successful professional, I don't think you'd want to be associated with living in a ghetto.
A funny observation that a friend of mine mentioned to me is that when you want a yellow taxi from the city, you never say I'm going to Bronx. If you say I'm going to Riverdale, they will take you because in their minds Riverdale isn't really part of the Bronx, as in it's safe, not overrun with crime and they don't have to worry about being robbed when they get you to your destination. lol Of course there are nice parts of the Bronx, but those areas usually take longer to get to and you have to go through the really run down parts of the Bronx to get to them, so I would imagine that yellow taxis wouldn't be so quick to go to say Throggs Neck or Country Club, even though they are nice neighborhoods.
Even though the Bronx is getting better in some parts, a lot of it is still run down and many people still don't see the Bronx as nothing more than one big ghetto and Riverdale is often times thought of as the "only" decent area of the borough. It's a shame to be honest, but it's the truth. It takes years to shake the image that the Bronx has and it will take many more before people see the Bronx in a different light.
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Why would you take offense to residents having pride in their neighborhood? Riverdale is a unique place that is hard to find in New York City. A nice blend of urban and suburban. The Bronx has had such a history of crime, drugs and poverty that you really can't fault us for wanting nothing to do with the borough. Someone living on the Upper East Side would certainly not want to be confused for being a part of East Harlem. It's all about class and personal pride. Nothing more, nothing less. If you lived in a nice area and was a successful professional, I don't think you'd want to be associated with living in a ghetto.
A funny observation that a friend of mine mentioned to me is that when you want a yellow taxi from the city, you never say I'm going to Bronx. If you say I'm going to Riverdale, they will take you because in their minds Riverdale isn't really part of the Bronx, as in it's safe, not overrun with crime and they don't have to worry about being robbed when they get you to your destination. lol Of course there are nice parts of the Bronx, but those areas usually take longer to get to and you have to go through the really run down parts of the Bronx to get to them, so I would imagine that yellow taxis wouldn't be so quick to go to say Throggs Neck or Country Club, even though they are nice neighborhoods.
I don't take offense to having pride in your neighborhood but I take offense in trying to hide that it's still part of the Bronx. You all still have to do jury duty on 161st Street.
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I don't take offense to having pride in your neighborhood but I take offense in trying to hide that it's still part of the Bronx. You all still have to do jury duty on 161st Street.
If the Bronx wasn't so run down I think more residents here would be more inclined to not write Riverdale, NY for the postal address, but as I said before, it's a pride a factor. We have some of the most beautiful scenery in all of New York City and that's something to be proud of. On the other hand, being known as being part of a borough with some of the highest crime rates and poverty when your neighborhood is the complete opposite makes no sense in my opinion. It's hard to identify with a lifestyle of those dealing with crime and other issues when you're in an area where there is little of that and often times living in very exclusive areas to boot, where the only part of the true Bronx they see is when they're flying by some run down area on the expressway.
You can't tell me that a kid going to a private school and living in Fieldston is going to be able to identify at all with some kid living in a run down section of the Bronx. It's two different worlds and to pretend as if we all are living the same life would be a joke. Yes, we know we're part of the Bronx but we might as well be living on another planet metaphorically speaking.
It's not as if this separation just started. Riverdale has always been a neighborhood for the very wealthy going back to when it was first developed. Now it's a mix of upper middle class and wealthy but the neighborhood has never experienced the horrid decline that most of the Bronx did.
If the Bronx wasn't so run down I think more residents here would be more inclined to not write Riverdale, NY for the postal address, but as I said before, it's a pride a factor. We have some of the most beautiful scenery in all of New York City and that's something to be proud of. On the other hand, being known as being part of a borough with some of the highest crime rates and poverty when your neighborhood is the complete opposite makes no sense in my opinion. It's hard to identify with a lifestyle of those dealing with crime and other issues when you're in an area where there is little of that and often times living in very exclusive areas to boot, where the only part of the true Bronx they see is when they're flying by some run down area on the expressway.
You can't tell me that a kid going to a private school and living in Fieldston is going to be able to identify at all with some kid living in a run down section of the Bronx. It's two different worlds and to pretend as if we all are living the same life would be a joke. Yes, we know we're part of the Bronx but we might as well be living on another planet metaphorically speaking.
It's not as if this separation just started. Riverdale has always been a neighborhood for the very wealthy going back to when it was first developed. Now it's a mix of upper middle class and wealthy but the neighborhood has never experienced the horrid decline that most of the Bronx did.
I believe you said you hadn't been to the rest of the Bronx, so how do you know?
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