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There was a time that Middle Village and Ridgewood preferred to disconnect itself from Brooklyn. Odd considering they (mostly) all moved from Brooklyn.
If it was left up to the local population, Manhattan would be all farms. In the words of Robert Moses, never let public opinion get in the way of things.
Middle Village/Maspeth is probably the closest suburban like area to Manhattan. The local population probably wants it to stay that way.
There are always complaining locals about ANY new proposal. Look at these boards for example.
Its why big developers, businesses, and politicians ignore them.
"Locals" in recent years have hated the idea of an air train to JFK, Columbia's expansion, LIC development, Barclay's Stadium in Brooklyn, Fresh Direct moving to the Bronx, and things in general to countless to mention. I'm sure locals weren't happy with airports being built, either.
If it was left up to the local population, Manhattan would be all farms. In the words of Robert Moses, never let public opinion get in the way of things.
He could of listened better. I always thought that Manhattan wasn't ideal for farming since it is mostly bedrock?
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
There are always complaining locals about ANY new proposal. Look at these boards for example.
Its why big developers, businesses, and politicians ignore them.
"Locals" in recent years have hated the idea of an air train to JFK, Columbia's expansion, LIC development, Barclay's Stadium in Brooklyn, Fresh Direct moving to the Bronx, and things in general to countless to mention. I'm sure locals weren't happy with airports being built, either.
That's why we still vote. I'm sure there have been just as many, if not more, proposals in the past that have been turned down than have been approved and implemented (e.g., the Bushwick and lower manhattan expressways).
Manhattan actually used to be mostly swamps and marshes in some portions while the northern sections were woodlands. Queens had the farmland. In fact, most of todays lines were built before buildings were even in the neighborhoods. A perfect example is todays (7) line which was built in the fast expanses of farmland that Queens had in 1915. Buildings and actual streets soon followed.
There are always complaining locals about ANY new proposal. Look at these boards for example.
Its why big developers, businesses, and politicians ignore them.
"Locals" in recent years have hated the idea of an air train to JFK, Columbia's expansion, LIC development, Barclay's Stadium in Brooklyn, Fresh Direct moving to the Bronx, and things in general to countless to mention. I'm sure locals weren't happy with airports being built, either.
I thought Barclay's was an under 20,000 capacity indoor arena like MSG, when did it become a stadium?
Manhattan actually used to be mostly swamps and marshes in some portions while the northern sections were woodlands. Queens had the farmland. In fact, most of todays lines were built before buildings were even in the neighborhoods. A perfect example is todays (7) line which was built in the fast expanses of farmland that Queens had in 1915. Buildings and actual streets soon followed.
The point is there would never be any development if you listened to public opinion, because at those particularly points, people complained big time about anything new.
He could of listened better. I always thought that Manhattan wasn't ideal for farming since it is mostly bedrock?
That's why we still vote. I'm sure there have been just as many, if not more, proposals in the past that have been turned down than have been approved and implemented (e.g., the Bushwick and lower manhattan expressways).
Politicians have other constituents besides their voters. They also have to listen to their donor base. Its also why we have things like eminent domain, which was used for both the 7 line extension and the Second Avenue Subway.
Manhattan actually used to be mostly swamps and marshes in some portions while the northern sections were woodlands. Queens had the farmland. In fact, most of todays lines were built before buildings were even in the neighborhoods. A perfect example is todays (7) line which was built in the fast expanses of farmland that Queens had in 1915. Buildings and actual streets soon followed.
To paraphrase that famous quote, the IRT and BMT built (the 7 and N lines), and everyone followed.
Middle Village/Maspeth is probably the closest suburban like area to Manhattan. The local population probably wants it to stay that way.
If the M was connected up to Queens Blvd. it would help people from that area have another way to go downtown and the Middle Village/Maspeth residents wouldn't need a bus to connect to the subway to get into Manhattan.
If the M was connected up to Queens Blvd. it would help people from that area have another way to go downtown and the Middle Village/Maspeth residents wouldn't need a bus to connect to the subway to get into Manhattan.
I agree, just not sure if the civic associations around there would.
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