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Old 06-10-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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I have a better chance being struck from lightning than being a victim of a "terrorist attack". So I will trade those ridiculously low odds for my privacy thank you very much. This whole "everybody's guilty until they prove themselves innocent" is the hallmark of a tyrannical govt gone outta control. Don't wait until its legal for the police to ransack your home at 2am without a warrant and do a cavity search of your wife in front of you and your kids to make sure there are no radical Mooslims hiding in her puddy cat to then decide to wake up
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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This is not true. The UK govt supplied information that thwarted this attack. Further proof the media lying to US
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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Why are you guys complaining about this new service provided by our government? You call it spying, I
call it free backup service for the American public.

If you ever accidently delete some important e-mail or files from your computer, or maybe a power surge
or virus causing a hard drive failure, as a taxpayer and an upstanding American citizen, you can always
send an e-mail to NSA requiring for a copy of your files or restore your hard drive back to the latest date it
was working for free. I'm pretty sure their service is more reliable than windows system restore as well.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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There's always an excuse for spying...I'm sure Hitler had one , Nero had one, and the Popes have a good network.

And we always here the same thing: "NOW it's justified." They electrocuted the Rosenbergs for spying...no reason not to continue the procedure for modern spies.

I value my rights...I wish others had the same degree of care for them but so many seem so willing to toss them all away as soon as somebody yells "BOOGEYMAN."
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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I value my rights...I wish others had the same degree of care for them but so many seem so willing to toss them all away as soon as somebody yells "BOOGEYMAN."
Exactly.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Finally something from Kefir I can wholeheartedly agree with.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Sunnyside
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The surveillance program that halted the Zazi plot was one that collected email data on foreign intelligence suspects, a U.S. government source said.

to be entirely on topic with the article the OP posted, your regular average joe isn't being monitored, but foreign intelligence suspects instead.
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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your regular average joe isn't being monitored, but foreign intelligence
suspects instead.

Have you read the reports of the wholesale monitoring of the US population by the Verizon-Homeland Security cabal just last week?

So average Joe is very much being monitored.

(And to pre-empt those who say "If you aren't doing anything you have no need to worry" to you good neo-Nazis I say why not lay your head on a subway track and prove Darwin correct.)
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Old 06-10-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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Have you read the reports of the wholesale monitoring of the US population by the Verizon-Homeland Security cabal just last week?

So average Joe is very much being monitored.

(And to pre-empt those who say "If you aren't doing anything you have no need to worry" to you good neo-Nazis I say why not lay your head on a subway track and prove Darwin correct.)
Everything you do is monitored. I've received calls from my bank when suspicious activity occurred with my account (spending wise) and I've had times when they canceled a credit card or debit card because the number was stolen (I didn't even know about it).

Other types of spending and accounts are monitored as well.

Internet companies themselves can monitor what you're doing, and yes, if its suspicious enough, you can be turned in.

This is true of governments and companies around the world. And there is no escaping it. So behave, and you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The difference between corporations monitoring our activities while using their products and the government doing the same is that the government has a near monopoly on the use of force, and can use the information it gathers to restrict the freedom of a citizen it alone determines to be "dangerous".
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