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11-09-2007, 12:17 PM
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Ok, well it's good to get more advice. I would want to go to people's homes, interview parents, and hang out with kids outside school including filming on the street (I did with the first school, a private alternative school), so if that would be too risky I have other options. I'd always go with someone (for sound purposes), I don't know if that would make a difference. And I'd be focusing on at most three kids, so maybe I could choose safer homes.
We're still going to visit the three schools (Ps 220, Ps 30, and the high school), but here are other possibilities that may be along similar lines but perhaps are in less dangerous neighborhoods. If you know anything about these areas or schools, especially those in the Bronx, please let me know. (The grades next to the names are Bloomberg's, which came out a few days ago):
C.S. 4 Crotona Park West Community School Grade: C
1701 Fulton Avenue BRONX
P.S. 101 Andrew Draper School Grade: F
141 East 111 St. NEW YORK (East Harlem)
P.S. 31 William Lloyd Garrison School Grade: C
250 East 156 Street BRONX
P.S. 29 Melrose School Grade: D
758 Courtlandt Ave. BRONX
P.S./M.S. 279 Captain Manuel Rivera Jr. School Grade: A
2100 Walton Avenue BRONX
P.S. 7 Samuel Stern School Grade: F
160 East 120 Street NEW YORK
In response to what other schools we're filming in...we are trying to make smart decisions, because we're trying to represent a range of Ny schools. We'd like to get one private progressive, one public progressive, one private conventional, and one public conventional. The other idea is to find some dropouts, who may make an interesting comparison to the private progressive kids, who are allowed to do whatever they want (not go to classes) under very different circumstances.
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11-09-2007, 01:30 PM
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Are you also including Catholic schools? They are an important resources for the community as well..and should be included to be thorough.
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11-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Yes, I hadn't thought about Catholic schools. There are sooo many options, even when focusing only on New York. It may have been better to focus on one neighborhood, but the first school is actually in North Jersey. The tricky thing has been and will be making the right choices knowing there will objections that we didn't cover this, this, and this. We're keeping it to four in order to really fill out each story (and because we'd like to film only this school year).
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11-09-2007, 02:21 PM
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I think a good respresentation might be: 2 "Regular" Public Schools, a Catholic School, one of the new "Progressive"/Charter Schools, and 2 of the Specialized Schools.
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11-10-2007, 07:34 AM
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Arose, be aware that the people who responded so far are the most optimistic bunch you'll ever meet.
I wish you the best of luck!
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I teach in the area so I'm there everyday, all day. I deal with the parents and families in the area everyday as well. So don't tell me I don't know much about it all.
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11-10-2007, 12:42 PM
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I teach in the area so I'm there everyday, all day. I deal with the parents and families in the area everyday as well. So don't tell me I don't know much about it all.
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You make it seem rosy. According to you Mott Haven is not the ghetto, and she should take no precaution at all.
FALSE.
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11-10-2007, 02:16 PM
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You make it seem rosy. According to you Mott Haven is not the ghetto, and she should take no precaution at all.
FALSE.
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What are you like 10 yeas old? Mott Haven is not Rosy but is also not hell either. Everyone here have already told her to take precautions.
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11-10-2007, 02:34 PM
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What are you like 10 yeas old? Mott Haven is not Rosy but is also not hell either. Everyone here have already told her to take precautions.
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Rachael didn't.
"You'll be fine. I'm a skinny, blonde haired blue eyed 23 year old female and I teach in the south Bronx. I take the same subway you would take to that area, just further up. I haven't had any problems."
And were you born yesterday? It's white yuppies like you who dont live the everyday life in the ghetto that are the first to promote it. You have no opinion, because you haven't lived through it.
END OF STORY.
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11-10-2007, 04:00 PM
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For what it's worth, this guy has spent years hanging out in Mott Haven:

Jonathan Kozol, who wrote such books as Death At An Early Age, Savage Inequalities and Ordinary Resurrections (the last one entirely about Mott Haven). Then again, I'm not quite as rumpled. But maybe I'll look him up and see how he's frequented the area unharmed for so long.
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11-11-2007, 06:02 PM
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