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Old 07-14-2013, 05:24 AM
 
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At approximately 2:30am today I was walking south on Broadway when came to a stop on the northeast corner of Broadway and Canal St in Manhattan (Chinatown). While I was waiting for the pedestrian light to change, I was blindsided by an intoxicated and disturbed male individual.

I did not sense this individual approaching me or perceived any warnings, I was caught completely off guard and in what seemed like a split second, was thrown to the ground and was put in a headlock while this individual applied pressure to my neck and rambled indecipherable nonsense into my ear.

I had no idea what was going on - I was truly in shock and terrorized. I didn't know if this individual was armed, from shock and fear and having never experiencing or being a victim to something like this, there was no action on my part. In that moment, I truly did not comprehend what was happening.

The altercation lasted about 30 seconds before bystanders started to approach and I heard voices saying "do you know this guy?" I don't have any recollection of vision. I heard the voiced and responded, "no, I don't know this guy." That's when they started to remove the guy off of me.

Once I was released, I crossed Canal and now stood on the southeast corner and watched from across the street as the intoxicated individual stumbled and walked in circles on the northeast corner.

I called 911, keeping the individual in my sight and recounted my encounter to the 911 dispatcher. The police were sent. By the time police arrived, the individual was around the corner less than a block away - he wasn't getting very far in his condition.

From the onset, the police did not demonstrate any urgency. The officer asked me if I was injured, and I said I was fine. Because I was fine, the officer informed me that it was not an assault and instead just "harrassment" and they could not arrest the individual. I told the officer "if he just did that to me, what might he do to someone else.?"

A second police car arrives and the driving officer has a Nathan's hot dog on his lap. The two police cars are now side by side - they are consulting with one another. I repeat myself and say "the guy went that way around that corner: no shirt, gray jeans." The officer says "we will canvass the area." Meanwhile the officer in the other car is applying mustard to his hot dog."

I am not making this up.

I stand around for another 5 minutes and the officers haven't moved. I finally walk away in digust and disbelief.

So apparently, on the streets of NYC, it's ok to body slam strangers to the street and place them in a choke hold. One of the guys who pulled the guy off of me, a witness, was by side the entire time.

Way to protect and serve NYPD.

I doubt there is anything I can do, if there is - let me know.

What a disappointing experience.

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Old 07-14-2013, 05:37 AM
 
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as we discussed many times the police have no obligation to protect you. they only protect society at large.

ultimately only you are responsible for your own safety and well being.

nothing is a problem until it is a problem and all those who never felt a need to protect themselves and are anti gun learn the hard way eventually when something happens to them.

i don't want another gun control discussion as we had endless counts of those.

this is just an example of how we are all responsible for our own safety.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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OK, but how is physically grabbing someone at random and wrestling them to the ground not assault? I was under the impression that you can't go around putting your hands on people. Must research this...Unfortunately, I guess you should have said you were hurt.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
as we discussed many times the police have no obligation to protect you. they only protect society at large.

ultimately only you are responsible for your own safety and well being.

nothing is a problem until it is a problem and all those who never felt a need to protect themselves and are anti gun learn the hard way eventually when something happens to them.

i don't want another gun control discussion as we had endless counts of those.

this is just an example of how we are all responsible for our own safety.
True but NY has emasculated your right to defend yourself. Pummel someone in self defense and you are the one in trouble here.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:08 AM
 
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what nationality was the assaulter
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Man I have not bee out in the wild that early in the morning or late at night for decades. I am glad I did not. Sounds really rough out there...Sorry to hear the unhelpful situation
 
Old 07-14-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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I would recommend not answering rdr555's question as it is irrelevant to the discussion. But to respond to the op, that is pretty much what cops do...not much at all! Their main purpose is first and foremost to protect themselves, secondly to deter you from filing a report, eliminating any crime stats being reported in their precinct, and finally if something violent has already happened, THEN taking action.

Cops don't want to deal with a drunk, even if he is acting crazy, because it becomes their problem and responsibility, so they won't bother...had you forced the issue and said you were hurt and want to file a report, they would have spent 45 minutes trying to convince you otherwise and dissuade you, dismiss your injuries as negilible, tell you it's not worth it, blah blah blah..anything not to take the report. And if after all this they do take the report, they will take a partial report and tell you either to come back tomorrow, or call in to the precinct to finish it, in the hopes that you don't bother and then no report (aka no crime stat reporting)!

Gotta love it!
 
Old 07-14-2013, 10:15 AM
 
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I would recommend not answering rdr555's question as it is irrelevant to the discussion. But to respond to the op, that is pretty much what cops do...not much at all! Their main purpose is first and foremost to protect themselves, secondly to deter you from filing a report, eliminating any crime stats being reported in their precinct, and finally if something violent has already happened, THEN taking action.

Cops don't want to deal with a drunk, even if he is acting crazy, because it becomes their problem and responsibility, so they won't bother...had you forced the issue and said you were hurt and want to file a report, they would have spent 45 minutes trying to convince you otherwise and dissuade you, dismiss your injuries as negilible, tell you it's not worth it, blah blah blah..anything not to take the report. And if after all this they do take the report, they will take a partial report and tell you either to come back tomorrow, or call in to the precinct to finish it, in the hopes that you don't bother and then no report (aka no crime stat reporting)!

Gotta love it!

This is why people have the right to defend themselves. If im getting my head pushed into the ground then I'm using all means necessary to turn the tide and whoop his @ss. I don't believe in waiting for the police to help out. They may never come, as the OP shows.
 
Old 07-14-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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If you want an answer, think what so much of the police force is made up of. Except for those who become police to serve some higher calling and help society, it is a slightly above minimum wage entry level career. For the same reasons you may not get great service at tgi Fridays, you won't get great service from the nypd
 
Old 07-14-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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I can understand that Joeymags, in which case we should stop calling it NYC's Finest, as you are clearly saying it isn't (and never was by the way), and instead call it what it is "NYC's Strongest Gang."
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