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Old 07-20-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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Whose projects were the worse? From what I've seen NY's projects looked like they are better kept up than what I've seen in Chicago. Has anyone been to Chicago and seen their projects upclose? Are NY projects as gang dominated as the ones in Chicago?


Here's a clip of Cabrini Green when they were up.(Warning this may be too rough for some viewers )



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Old 07-20-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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That video made me lose a few brain cells.

Anyway, I'm sure Chicago's are worse, but both are bad and I rather be homeless on the streets then live in one.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:25 PM
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While that looks horrible, I wonder if they were acting for show. Obviously the guns were real, though the video takers was looking for the worst.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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NYC is the only city in the US where big scaled projects "succeeded." Bear in mind that I am using a very loose definition of the word success. Every other city that had projects have either torn down their projects or have begun to, because they were just cesspools of crime, drugs and violence. The situation was so bad that the federal government had to step and give cities money to tear down their big scale projects.

Don't get me wrong, some NYC projects are still very dangerous, but I don't think they're as bad as Cabrini Green was.
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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So far I haven't heard anything about any NY projects being demolished. Did NY have a different approach to maintaining their projects than Chicago and other cities?
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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NY succeeded where all others failed because NY didn't throw in the towel. All large public housing showed serious signs of trouble from the moment they were first opened, but unlike other cities, NY always kept searching for ways to improve their projects. Be it by trying to implement some sort of tenant screening, more policing, and actually making an effort to make the projects somewhat desirable through landscaping and renovation. That fact NYC projects are more spread and scattered among different classes of neighborhoods also helped.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Chicago and NYC aren't really comparable because Chicago is a very segregated city. In addition to clearing the way for gentrification, I believe Chicago's projects had to come down as the result of a lawsuit. It's all part of a master plan.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:01 PM
 
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While that looks horrible, I wonder if they were acting for show. Obviously the guns were real, though the video takers was looking for the worst.
Well if you consider Chicago's recent murder rates that video might not be too far off as far as reflecting how rough things were at Cabrini.

Many say the recent heavy gun violence in Chicago is the results of tearing down projects like Cabrini. Those projects coming down ment that gang members from there had to relocate close to already taken gang turfs then the spike in violence came as Cabrini gang members bumped into more rivals.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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Well if you consider Chicago's recent murder rates that video might not be too far off as far as reflecting how rough things were at Cabrini.

Many say the recent heavy gun violence in Chicago is the results of tearing down projects like Cabrini. Those projects coming down ment that gang members from there had to relocate close to already taken gang turfs then the spike in violence came as Cabrini gang members bumped into more rivals.
Chicago's murder rate and crime is exaggerated. Crime was worse in the 90s when police presence was heavier. Chicago is a much safer city today and isn't close to topping the list of "most dangerous" cities.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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Whose projects were the worse? From what I've seen NY's projects looked like they are better kept up than what I've seen in Chicago. Has anyone been to Chicago and seen their projects upclose? Are NY projects as gang dominated as the ones in Chicago?


Here's a clip of Cabrini Green when they were up.(Warning this may be too rough for some viewers )



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Why isn't Rev Al setting up shop there and trying to stop black on black crime??
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