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Old 07-20-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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I was wondering why phase 1 of the Q extension to 96th street is supposed to be complete in late 2016 (probably mid 2017 with the MTA's amazing estimates-_-) but the construction crews have already tunneled to 86th street. They only have ten more blocks which will take about another year. So why are they opening it so late?
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:03 AM
 
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I was wondering why phase 1 of the Q extension to 96th street is supposed to be complete in late 2016 (probably mid 2017 with the MTA's amazing estimates-_-) but the construction crews have already tunneled to 86th street. They only have ten more blocks which will take about another year. So why are they opening it so late?
No, the tunneling is completely all the way to the 96th street station. As for why it takes so long, google websites that deal with subway construction. Once you build the tunnels, you have to build the stations. Once you build the stations, you have interior work to do. Major construction projects take awhile once started. Just look at the WTC.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:21 AM
 
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And then finally there is the delicate work of spreading GRIME all over the tiles. This all takes time.


BAA17,
I too am counting the months. I just pray that they open earlier rather than later than 2016. I have read that the 96th St, Station should be ready for a train and people in November 2015. I hope the other stations are too.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Tunneling's done. They're building out the stations and laying the tracks now. It's taking forever in large part due to delays on planning the stations because of frivolous lawsuits by some UES buildings that prevented them from starting construction on the stations earlier.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:33 PM
 
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I'll make a wild guess - general incompetence?
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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No, the tunneling is completely all the way to the 96th street station. As for why it takes so long, google websites that deal with subway construction. Once you build the tunnels, you have to build the stations. Once you build the stations, you have interior work to do. Major construction projects take awhile once started. Just look at the WTC.
Yes the tunnel was completed quite a while ago. But it takes a long time to do all the other work needed before the system can be opened to the public.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The late professor Dick Netzer once proposed that a Second Avenue Light Rail be built, as a cost-cutting alternative the the subway. I know it's too late for that, but how do you guys feel about that argument?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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The late professor Dick Netzer once proposed that a Second Avenue Light Rail be built, as a cost-cutting alternative the the subway. I know it's too late for that, but how do you guys feel about that argument?
Light rail would take up at minimum two lanes of car traffic- resulting in less transportation than the subway alternative.

Elevated light rail would incur similar costs and take up said car lanes during construction phases and limit some larger vehicles.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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Answer: because it's a government project
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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The late professor Dick Netzer once proposed that a Second Avenue Light Rail be built, as a cost-cutting alternative the the subway. I know it's too late for that, but how do you guys feel about that argument?
Light rail does not have the capacity nor speed of rapid transit. The East Side of Manhattan is way too dense to primarily depend upon light rail. The 2nd Ave subway is badly needed. In it's current state, it's underwhelming. Bronx and Brooklyn expansions are already needed.

East side once had 3 rapid transit lines, all elevated. It could use all three again.
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