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Old 07-24-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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Remember there is noooooo judge to go before.

I pleaded not guilty because i thought my clean record would help. I figured if i could get a fine and no points i would be happy.

I got the ticket in april. My first court date that was available was december.

I went to court, found out there was no chance of plea bargaining and just paid the ticket without even bothering to see the administrator since there was no point even going through with this once i saw the cop there.

You have to be 100% not guilty . There is no 2nd prize.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Remember there is noooooo judge to go before.

I pleaded not guilty because i thought my clean record would help. I figured if i could get a fine and no points i would be happy.

I got the ticket in april. My first court date that was available was december.

I went to court, found out there was no chance of plea bargaining and just paid the ticket without even bothering to see the administrator since there was no point even going through with this once i saw the cop there.

You have to be 100% not guilty . There is no 2nd prize.
Math I hear you.....
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:48 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Blake, thanks very much for the help. I actually called Weiss & associates from NYC as they got very good reviews. They told me they would handle the ticket for a flat fee of $350 and liek you said they would see if the cop show up in court and if so then they would postpone it. Not sure how they could wait to the last minute and see of the cop is there and if so then postpone it but I guess unlike the scenario you suggested I do the lawyer would actually be in the court so he/she could appear in front of the judge so I guess that is the BIG advantage. THanks
whaaa?? why the heck would you pay $350 for such a service?? the fine has to be much less than that.

What am I missing here?
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:30 AM
 
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my fine was 500 bucks . 200 for the ticket and 100 buck surcharge for 3 years by nys.

that is the cheapest part compared to the points surcharge if your insurance company reacts to it.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: New York City
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my fine was 500 bucks . 200 for the ticket and 100 buck surcharge for 3 years by nys.

that is the cheapest part compared to the points surcharge if your insurance company reacts to it.
yeah but you can wipe off the points overnight with a cheap online course, and your insurance rates should even go DOWN
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:02 AM
 
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WRONG!!!!!!!

taking the driver safety courses only effects the count towards getting your license suspended.

dmv tells you right on their website that the insurance company still sees your actual points you got.

here it is right from the nydmv:

Important: Completion of a course under the "Point & Insurance Reduction Program" does not remove, delete, subtract, or erase any violation, conviction, or notice of original number of points from your driving record. Even after you complete the course, most violations, conviction and points assessed will continue to show on your driving record for up to four years. Violations and convictions involving drugs or alcohol will remain on your driving record for ten years. "Point reduction" means the DMV will not count up to four points on your driving record toward license revocation or suspension.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: New York City
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dayum
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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74, everything you have written here is incoherent. Why pay $350 guaranteed (no refund) for the small chance to beat a $500 ticket? The $350 gets you nothing except avoiding the inconvenience of having to be there.

You still have not laid out any case whatsoever of arguing you are innocent.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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WRONG!!!!!!!

taking the driver safety courses only effects the count towards getting your license suspended.

dmv tells you right on their website that the insurance company still sees your actual points you got.

here it is right from the nydmv:

Important: Completion of a course under the "Point & Insurance Reduction Program" does not remove, delete, subtract, or erase any violation, conviction, or notice of original number of points from your driving record. Even after you complete the course, most violations, conviction and points assessed will continue to show on your driving record for up to four years. Violations and convictions involving drugs or alcohol will remain on your driving record for ten years. "Point reduction" means the DMV will not count up to four points on your driving record toward license revocation or suspension.
All true, but you still get a 10% discount on the liability portion of your insurance so it'll still save you money.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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74, everything you have written here is incoherent. Why pay $350 guaranteed (no refund) for the small chance to beat a $500 ticket? The $350 gets you nothing except avoiding the inconvenience of having to be there.

You still have not laid out any case whatsoever of arguing you are innocent.
one word!!!! insurance ... we have seen insurance jump 40 - 50% because of points AND FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS TOO.....

my sons insurance jumped 1400 a year because of a speeding ticket
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