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Old 07-25-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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That is a 40 year waiting list.

Why in heaven's name have they signed up the last 150,000????
Because they need paperwork to substantiate that they are doing something.
They are hoping that, in the interim, people will do something for themselves.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Before my mother moved into the bushwick projects in 1979 she was on the waiting list for 2yrs. I know people who got called 12yrs later after being placed on a list.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Well, guess what? If the projects close and the business is unable to attract people for minimum wage, maybe the business would have to pay a higher wage to attract people from further away. I am sick of subsidizing big business and the welfare class through insane taxes. The middle class is constantly getting hosed.
I do see your point there, definitely. Just pointing out this is not so much a free giveaway to residents of the projects, rather, the city is hoarding high concentrations of poor people to make sure there's readily available labor in certain industries.

If you end that, you change the cities economy as we know it. If they paid better wages, you'd end up with few workers (some businesses would fold) and people would stay on those jobs longer (why leave a good job) making those jobs harder to get. Obviously some people would have to leave the city, but city hall doesn't want this because the real estate costs might actually go down in this adjustment.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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rather, the city is hoarding high concentrations of poor people to make sure
there's readily available labor in certain industries.
And the alternative to this "hoarding" would be what, gas chambers?

There is always a source of cheap labor available from immigration and in a City dependent on tourism and Finance there seems little need for hoarded sources of cheap labor any time in the foreseeable future. If they weren't recruited in the Clinton prosperity, they sure won't be recruited in the Bush-Obama Depression.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Just pointing out this is not so much a free giveaway to residents of the projects, rather, the city is hoarding high concentrations of poor people to make sure there's readily available labor in certain industries.
This statement is simply ridiculous.

If anything, they are "hoarding" because they are forced to. Failure to house = law suits.
For starters.

This is changing, however, as we speak. As anyone familiar with recent proceedings in housing court knows.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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And the alternative to this "hoarding" would be what, gas chambers?

There is always a source of cheap labor available from immigration and in a City dependent on tourism and Finance there seems little need for hoarded sources of cheap labor any time in the foreseeable future. If they weren't recruited in the Clinton prosperity, they sure won't be recruited in the Bush-Obama Depression.
Exactly, on both counts.

I mean ... "hoarding"? Really ?!
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: USA
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^ bush-obama depression sounds a lot like b/o oppression lol.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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And the alternative to this "hoarding" would be what, gas chambers?

There is always a source of cheap labor available from immigration and in a City dependent on tourism and Finance there seems little need for hoarded sources of cheap labor any time in the foreseeable future. If they weren't recruited in the Clinton prosperity, they sure won't be recruited in the Bush-Obama Depression.
Yes, hoarding. Why were all these crappy apartments even built all across the city (not just projects, but there are scores of tenements). They weren't built to house the wealthy, I'll tell you that. Oh, and the majority of immigrants coming to NYC have HISTORICALLY BEEN POOR!

And many immigrants, by the time they have children, get welfare cases for their US born children. So immigrants are not so different from the people in the housing projects (some of whom are immigrants as well).
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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^ bush-obama depression sounds a lot like b/o oppression lol.

Yeah, except the Bush-Obama depression smells a LOT worse than b/o. And it is a lot more damaging to body and soul.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:20 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Yes, hoarding. Why were all these crappy apartments even built all across the city (not just projects, but there are scores of tenements). They weren't built to house the wealthy, I'll tell you that. Oh, and the majority of immigrants coming to NYC have HISTORICALLY BEEN POOR!

And many immigrants, by the time they have children, get welfare cases for their US born children. So immigrants are not so different from the people in the housing projects (some of whom are immigrants as well).
Do you work for wikipedia ?

All of that neat packaging and history completely evacuated and things not quite right.
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