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Old 08-09-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The less people that move here from other boroughs, the more we like it......

You obviously know little about the ISLAND, it has a multitude of EXCELLENT areas and FANTASTIC mansions, not just a little, like you stated. The ISLAND has a high income bracket. it has little crime, good schools, and only a few dilapidated areas. The people that live here take lots of pride on their homes. I have a Center-Hall-Colonial, with 5 bedrooms, 3 baths, and 3 car-garage, on almost 1/2 acre. My taxes are $5,000 per year. Same house in New Jersey: $20,000 per year taxes.
SHHHH!

As for the flooding... I was working in lower Manhattan when Sandy hit. The flooding was a biblical sight to behold. I'll never forget the water rushing down Avenue C straight towards me as if the street was a river. Minutes later, the power plant blew lighting the sky as bright as day, except green.

Choosing one borough of NYC over another because of possibly being flooded during a hurricane is ridiculous (well maybe the Bronx). Every borough has areas subject to flooding conditions due to future hurricanes or other storms.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: NYC
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People live on Staten Island because they love living here. The New Jersey shore gets flooded, during hurricanes or strong storms, more than Staten Island does.

The less people that move here from other boroughs, the more we like it......

You obviously know little about the ISLAND, it has a multitude of EXCELLENT areas and FANTASTIC mansions, not just a little, like you stated. The ISLAND has a high income bracket. it has little crime, good schools, and only a few dilapidated areas. The people that live here take lots of pride on their homes. I have a Center-Hall-Colonial, with 5 bedrooms, 3 baths, and 3 car-garage, on almost 1/2 acre. My taxes are $5,000 per year. Same house in New Jersey: $20,000 per year taxes.

Yes, they can go to New Jersey, but not across the Goethals Bridge. There what you are going to find is the slum of Elizabeth, staring you at the face.

New Jersey has the HIGHEST PROPERTY TAXES IN THE NATION........

What is at stake here is that you probably moved out of it because you could not afford to live here.....and now you are trying to disqualify it.........SORRY.... It speaks for itself. And I would not live anywhere else. I would gladly pay the $13 tolls to live here......and if some people do not want to visit me.....so be it.
I have several relatives in SI so I know the area quite well. You are right about your situation, if you got in on SI when it was secluded before the RE rush then you got yourself a nice property just like my relatives. For new properties or new buyers they are facing higher property taxes.

Property taxes are going up, I know NJ is high but it can't get any higher quickly with Govt Christie at the helm. The difference between SI and NJ is that the good parts of NJ beats just about any good parts of NY because of space. In NY, a go

The zoning is really tight so there isn't much valuable land left in SI other than developments in the Northern parts but the traffic and pollution there is really bad.

When you say NJ shores got hit harder than SI, that's because NJ shores has over 200 miles of shoreline compared to just less than 20 for Southern SI. Big difference. All beachfront properties are at risk during storms regardless of boro.

During Sandy, there are some weather centers that called it a hurricane but the national weather agency didn't declare it because the difference would be a few billions dollars the insurance industry would have to be liable for. This is why my co-worker got screwed, he has flood and storm insurance and the insurance company said they are not liable since it's a "tropical storm" and not a hurricane.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: East Mt Airy, Philadelphia
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Yes, $13 is extraordinarily high for a toll, but if you abandon your car and take the Ferry to Manhattan, the toll is $0.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Staten Island residents don't pay $13 anyway. We pay $4 for the Port Authority bridges and $6 for the VZ. Those prices still suck but they are obviously far less than non-residents pay. If I lived in Brooklyn and wanted to visit my friends in South Jersey, I'd pay $26 in bridge tolls alone for one trip.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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Yes, $13 is extraordinarily high for a toll, but if you abandon your car and take the Ferry to Manhattan, the toll is $0.
That's not really a viable option for most people who live on Staten Island. In general, a car is necessary to run errands, go grocery shopping, etc. because the mass transit isn't really a fast way to travel within the island and living within walking distance of everything you need is uncommon.

Also, during off peak hours (assuming no major traffic issues along the way) it would take approximately 30-45 minutes to drive into Manhattan. Depending where you live, it could take 20-60 minutes just to get to the ferry via the bus (if you even live near a bus stop) then another 30 minutes on the ferry itself, assuming you don't have to wait for the next ferry. Yes, there are express buses to Manhattan, but their schedule isn't so great.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:33 PM
 
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I have several relatives in SI so I know the area quite well. You are right about your situation, if you got in on SI when it was secluded before the RE rush then you got yourself a nice property just like my relatives. For new properties or new buyers they are facing higher property taxes.

Property taxes are going up, I know NJ is high but it can't get any higher quickly with Govt Christie at the helm. The difference between SI and NJ is that the good parts of NJ beats just about any good parts of NY because of space. In NY, a go

The zoning is really tight so there isn't much valuable land left in SI other than developments in the Northern parts but the traffic and pollution there is really bad.

When you say NJ shores got hit harder than SI, that's because NJ shores has over 200 miles of shoreline compared to just less than 20 for Southern SI. Big difference. All beachfront properties are at risk during storms regardless of boro.

During Sandy, there are some weather centers that called it a hurricane but the national weather agency didn't declare it because the difference would be a few billions dollars the insurance industry would have to be liable for. This is why my co-worker got screwed, he has flood and storm insurance and the insurance company said they are not liable since it's a "tropical storm" and not a hurricane.
your comparing a state to a city. good parts of NY like in long island, westchester etc have space.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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Bridges and Tunnels should be free. Why burden people from the outer boros to pay for free loser housing in harlem.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I have family living on SI, and to the question:

Why do people still live in SI?

um, not everyone's life revolves around Manhattan......
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Why not? SI offers the best quality of life in NYC. Also, many city workers live there, and where are they suppose to go? You have to live in the city to have these jobs, unless you wanna live in Nassau or Westchester, which are very expensive.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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No idea why anyone would live on Staten Island.

There was an article in the paper once that compared SI to Australia back when Australia was a prison island for British convicts. You basically have to be a criminal to live there.

Who wants to put up with the North Shore guidos dealing their drugs and pimping their women?
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