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Old 09-02-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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See...its not about guns or stop and frisk, its about black american culture that glorifies ghetto behaviour and violence
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Wow
Why "wow"?
Are you not aware of this problem ?
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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See...its not about guns or stop and frisk, its about black american culture that glorifies ghetto behaviour and violence
People should try to be involved in mentoring children, working in programs to convince non-ready women to refrain from bearing children, whatever else. Anything.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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Why "wow"?
Are you not aware of this problem ?

Nah I am, I am. Just sickens me when I read about it.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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See...its not about guns or stop and frisk, its about black american culture that glorifies ghetto behaviour and violence
And when young white males shoot up schools, movie houses and malls putting more innocent people in the graveyard in 1 incident than the total homicide count for an entire neighborhood like Brownsville in 1 year is that due to "white american culture"?

And also why don't we see widespread violence in predominately black working and middle-class neighborhoods where you can also witness this "black american culture"?
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The only good thing is that the community's fingered the criminal.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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People should try to be involved in mentoring children, working in programs to convince non-ready women to refrain from bearing children, whatever else. Anything.
What good would that do? In CT, when a white woman has a deranged child who shot up a school, did people decide to mentor non ready women from having children? Did people decide to help the "poor" white people of CT? This sound like kitchification of people in poor neighborhoods (save the whales, lets civilize the poor dears).

What about the white dude that shot up the movie theater in Utah? Please demonstrate how a senseless crime in Brownsville is linked to poor motherhood, and for that matter, let us know why when white men commit crimes, its not poor motherhood.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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And when young white males shoot up schools, movie houses and malls putting more innocent people in the graveyard in 1 incident than the total homicide count for an entire neighborhood like Brownsville in 1 year is that due to "white american culture"?

And also why don't we see widespread violence in predominately black working and middle-class neighborhoods where you can also witness this "black american culture"?
Repped. Its ridiculous to claim the shooting of a baby is normal to any culture, or that homicide is normal to any culture.

Racists, since they already don't like Blacks, will always take the worst news possible concerning Blacks or non whites and use that as a justification possible, all while ignoring the worst news if it concernes whites.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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People should try to be involved in mentoring children, working in programs to convince non-ready women to refrain from bearing children, whatever else. Anything.
They do have some programs like that. I've read about them. Unfortunately, they are fighting against the tide, but even if a few escape and find a better life, I think it's worth it.

I read an article a few years ago. A woman who works in those types of communities said that outsiders will often think, "Why don't these girls DO something else? Finish school, have some ambition beyond getting pregnant, etc.?" It seems to those of us who don't live in that world that your number one ambition would be doing whatever the hell you can to get the f*&^ out of there.

But she said that it's just not part of the way they see the world. Graduating from high school, going to college, that's not the goal. You become an adult when you have a child. That place they live in is the only world they know and the one they know how to get around in, and the pattern just repeats itself.

This was referring to very poor neighborhoods where the poverty is generational.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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Stop and Frisk didn't stop this crime because it was a revenge killing intended for the boy's father or uncle. This is the true nature of crime in the city's worst areas. And yes, the judge's ruling matters big time as no mayor can defy a federal judge ruling. Besides, de Blasio will be the next mayor.
Revenge killing of known gang members. People who don't give a hoot about anyone else including themselves. They make it bad for everyone.

Why you continue to stick up for these types I don't know, maybe your tune will change when either yourself or your family is hit by one of these stray bullets. Maybe you're benefiting personally from some gang members? Suspicion is enough for Stop and Frisk and if you're acting suspicious, guess what you're going to get noticed. Your Robinhood-esque deduction doesn't hold water, these thugs care nothing about human life and your attitude of not caring for the next person lines up perfectly with their attitudes.

The judge's conclusion doesn't matter because it was illegal for her to circumvent the will of the people, meaning by law this was supposed to be voted by the people, this told to me by a lawyer. You'll see what happens come January.

And if you think having a Democrat in the mayor's office will change things then you're truly delusional. The Jewish Community won't allow Stop and Frisk to be ended for starters.

The day New York becomes like Chicago I'm outta here.

So keep chiming on this message board about federal courts and the Constitution it doesn't mean a hill of beans of what will happen here in the city.
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