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And what do you think ended the crack era? It was the combination of much more intensive policing, and tougher laws (a lot of this was at the federal level. Look at the difference in sentencing between convictions for trafficing powder cocaine vs crack.)
What ended the crack era is that crack became a lot less of a popular drug after people saw first hand what it did to huge scores of people. The aids epidemic killing off crackheads certainly helped.
Policing did not end the crack cocaine era, as policing has NEVER ended drug use.
It's not. Under Dinkins tenure Times Square had already started to show significant progress, also the major scale rehabilitation of dilapitated areas had started. You know that.
What ended the crack era is that crack became a lot less of a popular drug after people saw first hand what it did to huge scores of people. The aids epidemic killing off crackheads certainly helped.
Policing did not end the crack cocaine era, as policing has NEVER ended drug use.
Also the authorities down in Miami started get control of the dwinling crack flood from the Bahamas and DR. In the beginning they had no control.
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Also the authorities down in Miami started get control of the dwinling crack flood from the Bahamas and DR. In the beginning they had no control.
So that was a FBI/Federal action, closing down the barriers to entry for coke. That probably plays a role in why heroin went down as well. But this was FEDERAL action, not LOCAL action.
Crack never went away. It's still out there. Lot's of people buy it and use it.
What the cops did was make it much riskier to sell it out on the street. When there used to be open air durg sales and drug dealers shooting out over corners, the cops pushed the sales underground, where the dealers are less likely to openly clash and shoot it out. Also, with stop and frisk in place, it made it risky to carry drugs and guns around, with the chance that some cop would randomly pat them down and end up with several years upstate. So the dealers become much more carrying anything, which also suppressed the possibility of throw downs happening spontaneously.
The drugs still got sold, but the dealers had to get smarter and more circumspect about how to do it, because the cops got more aggressive. This cut down the body count tremendously.
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What ended the crack era is that crack became a lot less of a popular drug after people saw first hand what it did to huge scores of people. The aids epidemic killing off crackheads certainly helped.
Policing did not end the crack cocaine era, as policing has NEVER ended drug use.
Crack never went away. It's still out there. Lot's of people buy it and use it.
What the cops did was make it much riskier to sell it out on the street. When there used to be open air durg sales and drug dealers shooting out over corners, the cops pushed the sales underground, where the dealers are less likely to openly clash and shoot it out. Also, with stop and frisk in place, it made it risky to carry drugs and guns around, with the chance that some cop would randomly pat them down and end up with several years upstate. So the dealers become much more carrying anything, which also suppressed the possibility of throw downs happening spontaneously.
The drugs still got sold, but the dealers had to get smarter and more circumspect about how to do it, because the cops got more aggressive. This cut down the body count tremendously.
Nobody said all drug use ended.
But at the same time, crack use has dimished. When you're addicted to a drug, you physically need that drug. If you've no money to get it, you steal, sell your body, sell everything in your house, etc.
You are ignoring the national decline in crime, where many cities did not have NYC's version of Stop and Frisk which does not stop crack use. Only people stop crack use.
As for all the people using crack, believe it or not I don't know anyone here in the North Bronx where I live who does crack. I guess you hang out with a real winner of a crowd, since lots of people use crack and you need police state tactics to keep your friends under control.
Chicago also adopted NYPD practices years ago. And this idea that criminals are gonna go away on their own is nuts.
Criminals are just like the Hydra 3 headed snake, cut off one head another will grow back. Lock up one criminal another will take its place. Lock up an entire criminal ring, another will take its place.
Criminals are just like the Hydra 3 headed snake, cut off one head another will grow back. Lock up one criminal another will take its place. Lock up an entire criminal ring, another will take its place.
Exactly. Which is why it takes a lot more than policing to reduce crime. Social, economic, and cultural issues have to be addressed.
Oh, and when criminals get locked up, its usually just for a few months or a few years. If they are so inclined, they can go right back to what they were doing. Its not like the NYPD rounded up all criminals under Giuliani and put them in some hole in the ground permanently.
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