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OK, but I thought your rent was like $900 a month for a 2 bedroom?
That kind of low rent isn't available to most people, for the most part.
But my sister found a 1 br in inwood for $900 no problem. People exaggerate here. Yeah if you try to move to soho 40 k won't cut it but look elsewhere.
But my sister found a 1 br in inwood for $900 no problem. People exaggerate here. Yeah if you try to move to soho 40 k won't cut it but look elsewhere.
Those neighborhoods are considered bad neighborhoods, and the schools there aren't considered good either.
If you wanted to have a lifestyle that would be considered middle class by most Americans, to do that you'd need to earn 200k to get buy (have a car, send your kids to good schools, not have your gets grow up with street trash, live in safe area with amenities, etc).
Also, if you make just 40k in NYC, you'll live in a neighborhood with a lot of section 8 people. Lots of noise, trash, loud music and weird hours, etc. Unfortunately the city dumps homeless and welfare clients in working class neighborhoods, making these neighborhoods unbearable for many people.
Any part of this 13% uptick contributed to the remnants of OWS? I noticed that not all of them went back to their small towns, many just dispersed outwards from Liberty Park.
I highly doubt it. I went to Occupy Wall Street, vast majority of the people are Transplants, the very people you like an embrass that you hope can make NYC great and better place over the ignorant, stuckupand uneducated masses of blacks, Hispanics and ethnic whites remnant. Vast majority of these folks who attened occupy wall street owned an iphone and drank starbucks, twitted comments via MacBook pro. Non of these folks knew anything about Glassteagle act, the effects of NAFTA, trickledown economics, gentrification, globalization, etc and et al. For some it was just one big party. NYC population needs to drop big time, having 8 million people is not sustainable in the long run. Just came back from New Orleans, Katrina did wonders for that city!
But my sister found a 1 br in inwood for $900 no problem. People exaggerate here. Yeah if you try to move to soho 40 k won't cut it but look elsewhere.
There is something to respect about homeless people as opposed to your standard welfare bunnies popping out future criminals. Pride... You see White's very well represented in the homeless population
You all really need a reality check with the numbers, Shows a lot of you are very privledged- 60 Grand for family of three is a bit of a struggle, but it can work. LOL @ threads like can police officers survive on salary in nyc, and the likes.... It must be welfare bunnies and rich folks on this forum with no in between.
You all really need a reality check with the numbers, Shows a lot of you are very privledged- 60 Grand for family of three is a bit of a struggle, but it can work. LOL @ threads like can police officers survive on salary in nyc, and the likes.... It must be welfare bunnies and rich folks on this forum with no in between.
Not in NYC it can't work. In any nice area, the landlords want you to earn 40 times one months rent on an annual basis.
I agree if it was the control as a whole, 60k would work. But in NYC it won't work when dealing with market rate apartments.
The people I know who were police officers or city employees often bought houses in the outer boroughs and rented out space in them . Yes, that works. Many of them are married (two parents earning income) and/or living with family. Yes, that works.
But to get a place on your own with 60k in a nice area? Its just not enough money.
I highly doubt it. I went to Occupy Wall Street, vast majority of the people are Transplants, the very people you like an embrass that you hope can make NYC great and better place over the ignorant, stuckupand uneducated masses of blacks, Hispanics and ethnic whites remnant. Vast majority of these folks who attened occupy wall street owned an iphone and drank starbucks, twitted comments via MacBook pro. Non of these folks knew anything about Glassteagle act, the effects of NAFTA, trickledown economics, gentrification, globalization, etc and et al. For some it was just one big party. NYC population needs to drop big time, having 8 million people is not sustainable in the long run. Just came back from New Orleans, Katrina did wonders for that city!
Many of the original occupiers cannot even have been called transplants. They came to NYC because of occupy, and they left after it fell apart. You are right that they had iphones and went to Starbucks. They were wealthy people.
The original OWS (I was a regular there) was not about making NYC better. They really didn't care about NYC. It was about protesting corporate corruption, and it was used by the Democrats to bring out the vote (it occurred one year before the elections). It brought up themes like the 1%, increasing taxes on the wealthy (President Obama succeeded in doing that in exchange for 10% across the board budget cuts), the huge division between the wealthy and everyone else (incorporate into de Blasio's campaign). Basically, OWS was funded by the left wing of the Democratic party to bring attention to the issues they cared about ,and to be the answer to the tea party (which had reinvigorated Republican politics). Occupy Wall Street spread around the country, until the government decided to shut down the camps (which had become filthy and full of perverts, drugs, rapists,etc.). There was rape of both women and men (mainly when people got too drunk or high to fight).
Nobody in the actual OWS had any intention of educating down and out New Yorkers.
The rapes and crimes were committed by the homeless faction among occupiers. The homeless faction was pretty much people who were already homeless in NYC before OWS. The out of towners who came to NYC for OWS were mostly well to do (there were a few poor kids, not many).
But yeah, the crew had Iphones, Ipads, and a lot of tech gear and was well connected with lawyers, Democratic party officials, unions, etc. Many of these kids post occupy got good jobs. They used OWS to advance their careers.
Even less. Me and my gf make 40,000 and have a kid and we're fine. Oh and the reason we're not making bank is cause we haven't finished our majors yet
Just throwing out income does not cut to the nitty-gritty. In order to make a decision as to the livability in NYC on 40K/year each or a $80k combined household income we would need to know expenses including rent/housing and so forth.
After taxes 40K per year is down to at least the low 30's or even high 20's.
Vast majority of these folks who attened occupy wall street owned an iphone and drank starbucks, twitted comments via MacBook pro.
They must thank goodness for the corporations.
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