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Different administration prioritize crime differently. For Bla's administration, it has a much lower priority that it has had for the last twenty years. We're now seeing the results of that.
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
No administration is pro criminal.
Crime historically has always come and gone on ways. There's a new heroine and molly epidemic that is hitting many communities hard. Policing alone will not solve this.
More money needs to be put into addiction and mental health resources.
Crime also tends tobgo down where you have more working people, and it increases with poverty.
It doesn't actually stop crime..I don't have the link handy, but the numbers were crunched, and they didn't add up to stop and frisk lowering the crime rate. If crime is skyrocketing in NYC now, it's because cops have backed off almost completely from making stops(and there was a story in the NYDN this past week where an NYPD "official" said as much). his comments were something like, "we're told it must be a quality stop. but if you stop, and there's nothing on the guy, was it quality?"
Cops are afraid of getting jammed up, so they're basically going hands-off, and not using the other tools in their arsenal besides stop and frisk. that's the issue. It just LOOKS like stop and frisk is the determinant factor. it isn't.
Now..I've never been stopped and frisked by NYPD. Not as a kid in Queens, not as an adult. Should my skin color mean that the 4th amendment no longer applies to me? because stop and frisk is a CLEAR violation of the 4th.
Coulda sworn we fixed that "3/5th a man" thing a long time ago.
Are black/hispanic kids doing most of the street crime?. YEP.
doesn't it make sense to look harder at those who fit that profile? YEP.
But, because this is America, and we are supposed to abide by the Constitution..we need to find a way that cops can apply common sense but NOT stop a guy like me while I'm walking to dunkin donuts or something. Also, please don't tell me that cops aren't racist. Not all..but racism is CERTAINLY tolerated within police culture. that means they use the truth of heightened minority crime to express their racism under cover of authority.
And THAT, my friends, is how so many young black men end up with 5 bullets in the back instead of cuffed and in the back of the car. So, yes, I'm torn. We know who does the dirt at the street level.
Bottom line. Mark my words. Cops are done working until they have cameras. Period. Consequences be damned, no cop with a brain is going to risk going to jail because the media and racialists have decided that it's either perfection or vilification. So provide the cameras (which socialists don't actually want because they don't want the truth of the welfar state exposed) or deal with rising crime. Your choice. Make it.
In my career I've never stepped out of the car as little as I have in the last year. Until I have a camera I have no interest whatsoever in performing police work. That's the bottom line. I win, not you. That's how it works. Time to learn the truth of what happens when you give the government a monopoly on the use of force, something I vehemently disagree with.
The reality is no matter how an Officer approaches an individual on the street the Police will always be under a microscope of scrutiny. Especially in a liberal cesspool such as NYC.
It doesn't matter if reasonable suspicion that resulted in the stop was based on specific and articulable facts, the liberal socialists and their brain dead followers will interpret any stop as unjust and unconstitutional.
Why should any Officer enforcing the laws following proper procedure to protect our God Given Rights while they enforce those laws risk their own lives and their families security when no matter what they do will be interpreted as wrong and be condemned by politicians, the media and the brain dead followers?
Maybe NYC needs to go back in time and relive the 70's and 80's
as for those cameras, put them on every politician
This has the be the most odd post I have ever read. You start with an impassioned explanation for why SQF didn't work, then finish with the exact reason why it did. Which one is it?
well what was the point of stop and frisk? wasnt it to try and catch criminals in the act as theyre about to embark on a crime? If that was the point, then its a failure simply bc the criminals know that if theres random patdowns they just have to be sneakier about doing crime. it didnt stop crime and a large majority of searches didnt net anything.
youre average stick up kid and rowdy ghetto teenager is not going to come into a white area, esp a middle class area thats heavily policed.....not unless they wanna get arrested on site, which a majority do not. furthermore the invisible boundaries are quite real. How often do you hear about bed stuy bushwick flatbush East NY Brownsville youths wreaking havoc on brooklyn hts park slope Caroll Gardens and whatnot? The youths that goto school in those type of areas their schools have heavy police surveillance and the youth are under heavy watch.
You'll find ghetto people from Bushwick doing dirt in the 104th precinct in Queens all the time. A guy from ENY got murdered in Glendale and a guy from Bed Stuy in Ridgewood, both in recent months.
Crime historically has always come and gone on ways. There's a new heroine and molly epidemic that is hitting many communities hard. Policing alone will not solve this.
More money needs to be put into addiction and mental health resources.
Crime also tends tobgo down where you have more working people, and it increases with poverty.
Of course not directly. Although deBlasio is pretty direct on the topic as he'll go out and march on their behalf.
Of course not directly. Although deBlasio is pretty direct on the topic as he'll go out and march on their behalf.
I thought only white people do heroin?
I think it's a similar relationship with republicans and unions. In states with large govt funded projects using unionized labor, the republicans will fight tooth and nail for continued funding. Everything just really boils down to votes. If the voting base is union workers then you back them, if most of them are criminals then you create crimnal friendly policies. Doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican.
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I guess it is easy to say since it does not affect you in anyway. Consider this how would you like someone to come up and stop and frisk you because you just happened to be white? What if they are real nasty about it as well?
I'm white race, Hispanic ethnicity and I'm all for S&F.
Bottom line. Mark my words. Cops are done working until they have cameras. Period. Consequences be damned, no cop with a brain is going to risk going to jail because the media and racialists have decided that it's either perfection or vilification. So provide the cameras (which socialists don't actually want because they don't want the truth of the welfar state exposed) or deal with rising crime. Your choice. Make it.
In my career I've never stepped out of the car as little as I have in the last year. Until I have a camera I have no interest whatsoever in performing police work. That's the bottom line. I win, not you. That's how it works. Time to learn the truth of what happens when you give the government a monopoly on the use of force, something I vehemently disagree with.
IMO cameras are a win for both sides. You guys dont get jammed up and people will not feel as apprehensive when getting stopped.
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