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Old 12-01-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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I take the subway all the time.....wonder what the odds are of this happening to me on my work commute.....
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The A
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I take the subway all the time.....wonder what the odds are of this happening to me on my work commute.....
Let's hope not that high
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Did the derailment happen in Riverdale or The Bronx?
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Same thing. Riverdale is the Westernmost part of the Bronx.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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in the Kingsbridge PO zip code 10463
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Push vs. Pull.

The engine was at the back pushing. This seems to me a bad idea.
Think about it, if an engine at the front derails, the locomotion will stop because it cannot run in dirt...all it will have propelling it will be momentum.
However with a locomotive at the rear, if a front car derails the locomotive will continue to push for a much longer time, relatively speaking.

Think of all the people trying to return to NYC today from the North. It will be a cosmic mess.

Geez, 100 yards from the station? You'd think the train would have drastically slowed down?
Alot of Agencies use push-pull its cheaper then EMU or DMUs in North America , although they just changed the regulations to the European regulations so it will be cheaper to buy EMU's and DMU's. The reason for the Diesel being in the rear is due to the exhaust and noise that would disturb people at Grand Central , NJT does the same for Hoboken Trains. The brakes might have failled , thats really the only reason anybody can think of in the Transportation community. Most likely its a veteran who operating this train as newbies can't due this line.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Ill bet those across the river in Tenafly NJ will be taking pictures...and those in the elevator vestibule in River Plaza shopping center will be able to see the whole thing
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I take the subway all the time.....wonder what the odds are of this happening to me on my work commute.....
You have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning then your train derailing , there have only been 4 Passenger derailments this year in US.... If you live near a Freight line , theres some chance you might see a derailment near your house in your lifetime , theres been over 70 Freight train derailments so far this year. As for Urban Transit , theres only been 3 derailments this year , that aren't caused by a car or truck at a crossing.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Push vs. Pull.

The engine was at the back pushing. This seems to me a bad idea.
Think about it, if an engine at the front derails, the locomotion will stop because it cannot run in dirt...all it will have propelling it will be momentum.
However with a locomotive at the rear, if a front car derails the locomotive will continue to push for a much longer time, relatively speaking.

Think of all the people trying to return to NYC today from the North. It will be a cosmic mess.
Thousands of trains push their way across America's rails every day with absolutely no problems. Don't expect a change any time soon.
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Geez, 100 yards from the station? You'd think the train would have drastically slowed down?
It wasn't stopping at that station, however speed through the curve is supposed to be 30mph. Why the engineer wasn't able slow or didn't slow, we won't know for quite a while after the investigation is complete. There's a small chance that he did slow and something else happened, but given his own comments that doesn't appear likely. Just my point is that it's too early to really assign a cause.
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i wonder if the curve from N-S to E-W had anything to do with it
Not really, it's a 30mph curve, but having the curve there doesn't inherently mean much.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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yeah i forgot that this happened on the busiest weekend of the year
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