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Obviously, if you don't see it, then it must not exist. Oh, and can somebody send a memo to science teachers and tell them the earth is flat and NOT round? I have no idea how they came to such a silly conclusion...
I've forgotten more about Manhattan than you'll ever know
Then you must have been absent from class when the history of how NYC developed in particular in relation to the subway system was covered.
Long story short it was the expansion of the subway to UWS, Harlem and points north into the Bronx, and also from lower Manhattan into Brooklyn and Queens that caused much the development in those areas. Indeed some claim that the lack of subway service to Staten Island kept it "rural" long after Brooklyn and Queens became heavily developed.
Go back and research the history of Astoria, Jackson Heights, Flushing, etc.. and see the impact of the subway system.
There may not be *much* over on the Far West Side today to suit yourself, but long after we all here are mouldering in our graves that area will have changed.
NJ Transit from Secaucus to NYC is much more than $2.50.
The NJT fare is $4.
Why anyone thinks that NYC should spend billions, to extend the 7-Line outside NYC & NY State, under the Hudson River to NJ, paralleling a existing service, then charge a buck-fifty less, is beyond me.
The NJT fare is $4.
Why anyone thinks that NYC should spend billions, to extend the 7-Line outside NYC & NY State, under the Hudson River to NJ, paralleling a existing service, then charge a buck-fifty less, is beyond me.
I would certainly support it. It wouldn't parallel any existing service (and NE corridor line is at 100% capacity, so not really relevant).
But NJ would have to pay the vast bulk of the cost, because it would benefit NJ more.
The 7 extension to NJ was nothing but a pipe dream and it's long since cancelled.
It was never seriously planned. Bloomberg wanted to do it, but Joe Lhota killed the idea as being completely unworkable. the MTA, a NY entity, would have had to purchase land in NJ for the stations, train yards, and other facilities. Would NJ have contributed anything to this? Not under Christie. Therefore it was never worth the financial risk to the MTA.
If NYC wants to spend more money on trains, let them fund additional phases of the Second Avenue Subway. The West Side of Manhattan is developing just fine without an additional train to NJ. If anything else is built, let it be funded by the feds or by NJ. If the Amtrak Gateway is happens, that will have federal funding and would make the 7 train to NJ redundant.
This is a completely incorrect statement!
NJT & Amtrak both run trains from NYPenn, @ 33rd & 8th, to Secaucus Junction. It's one stop. PATH runs from 33rd & 6th to Hoboken.
The proposed 7-line extension from 34th & 11th to NJ would have stopped at Hoboken, on it way to Secaucus Junction. 7 Subway Extension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How can you even imagine, that these services would not be parallel?
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The 7 extension to NJ was nothing but a pipe dream and it's long since cancelled.
Yorkville has subway access, you have to walk several blocks but it does have the IRT line. Considering the distances some have to walk in parts of Brooklyn, Queens, or even Brooklyn the hike from First or York Avenue isn't *that* bad.
My vote to the OP's original query would be Staten Island which as no subway service at all.
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This is a completely incorrect statement! 
